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EDP Log-jam --- Place your EDP orders here, now.


I just lost a long e-mail outlining a process to nudge fate along.  So, 
Iíll probably outline it again -- a lot shorter this time aroundÖ  
We did this before, we can do this again.  There are no guarantees and it 
will take a few months, but it can make a difference.

In the meantime, could someone from the British company currently 
possessing the 300+ EDPís AND who is authorized to allow their release 
please contact me?

Hereís what I propose.

1) Find an individual at Gibson who will benefit personally and 
financially from EDPís shipping 
2) Collate a list of EDP orders from buyers worldwide
3) Find a retailer who can handle 300 EDP orders worldwide

1) Find someone a Gibson who will benefit from EDPís shipping

Until we find someone at Gibson who personally benefits from the sale of 
300 EDPís, we have no champion on our side.  The people who benefit most 
from sales of Gibson products are Gibsonís Sales Directors (not marketing 
and not finance).  We need to talk a Director of Sales / Distribution with 
a territory and with a sales quota who can benefit from selling 300 EDPís. 
   If we can create a scenario where all 300 units are shipped through 
this personís territory, then these sales apply to that personís quota.   
Hopefully they can get a bonus based on $200,000 of EDPís.  As you can see 
this is not a lot of money.   So we need to make this easy for someone.  
Basically, we need to give him/her the orders and a super-simple process 
to fulfill the orders.

2) Collate a list of EDP orders from buyers worldwide

We need a consolidated list of orders to show the guaranteed sales 
potential.  As a group, with 300 orders in hand we have an impact.  Iíve 
done this before.  Iíll do it again.   
So, Iíll volunteer to collate EDP orders.  This list will be our leverage. 
 Where-ever you are in the world, if you want to buy an EDP, please send 
me an e-mail with the following information:

Number of EDPís you want to buy (assume an $800 price):


I will ONLY provide this list to two people:  1) The designated Gibson 
VP/Director of Sales who we negotiate with; 2) The designated Retailer who 
will be targeted to handle all the EDP orders we create.  If anyone doubts 
my ability to safeguard your personal information, please get in touch 
with beneficiaries of the last ďEDP Group BuyĒ I facilitated.  
If you already have orders with other retailers, please place your order 
again with me, here, now.   Assume this will be the last ever EDP run, and 
that it this works no other retailers will ever receive their requested 
units.  This actually might be closer to the truth than I would like to 

I will provide periodic updates on status.  When I have 100 orders, we 
have a little clout.  With 300 orders weíre in better shape as this will 
basically cover all the 300 units currently languishing in a UK warehouse.

3) Find a retailer who can handle 300 order

Does anyone remember the name of the Californian retailer through whom who 
we channeled all orders last time?  They had a process that seemed to 
satisfy everyone before.  No need to reinvent the wheel.  

Why just one retailer?  Simple:  1) So we impact the sales quota of our 
Gibson Sales & Retail Champion. 2) To simplify accounting and shipping 
information for Gibson and the Mystery UK Owner of 300+ EDPís. 

So, to summarize:

1) We need to find a Gibson Director of Sales & Distribution who will act 
as a ďChampionĒ and who will benefit from selling 300 EDP units through 
his/her territory.

2) I will collate a list of buyers worldwide.  I will keep all information 
secure, and share only with the designated retailer and the VP at Gibson 
we work through.

3) We need a single retailer who can handle world-wide shipments.   Does 
anyone remember the Cali retailer we used last time?

Donít expect this to work overnight.  Last time around this took a few 
months to get going. But Iím lead to believe it made an impact, and I know 
people did received EDPís via this ďgroup buyĒ process.  I bought three, 

AGAIN: Could someone from the British company currently possessing the 
300+ EDPís AND who is authorized to allow their release please contact me? 
 Without your direct contact, we will have no authority to move.  You 
probably have questions.  I need to answer them.

If you want to buy an EDP and youíre feeling iffy about my credentials on 
doing this, please contact Kim.  He will remember this process from last 
time around.

If you have any questions about this process, please contact me directly 
and under separate cover.  But, before you contact me, please could I ask 
that you re-read this email? :-)

OK.  I must be crazy to get involved, but I know doing this was helpful 
last time around.   Itís a loop I know. :-)

David Kirkdorffer

> From: "Krispen Hartung" <info@krispenhartung.com>
> Date: 2004/05/19 Wed AM 02:25:33 GMT
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: RE: Gibson and Looping--Not Over Yet?
> Agreed.  Customer satisfaction and loyalty, two traits that distinguish
> the most successful and well respected companies in the world, are
> obviously not in Gibson's charter and overall business plan.  The sad
> thing is that the customer need is being delivered to them on a silver
> platter, but they are playing politics.   Gibson has some of us at a
> disadvantage for the time being, because they lack a viable competitor
> that can provide an alternative product with a similar feature set.
> However, this arrangement will only endure so long before customers
> settle with an alternative product, or another manufacture comes out
> with something new and comparable, after which EDP will die in the
> marketplace.  Gibson can cry "middleman" all they want, but the bottom
> line is that their reputation is on the line.   This is flat out
> marketing 101 poor business practice.
> I would encourage everyone to express their concerns using Gibson's web
> form: http://www.gibson.com/info/mailfeeder/indextest.html  
> Paste the following:
> http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/LDarchive?query=EDP
> %3Bbackorder&errors=0&maxfiles=50&maxlines=10&.cgifields=partial&.cgifie
> lds=restricttofiles&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgifields=case&.cgifields=filel
> ist  
> (search string on looper's delight for "EDP;backorder"
> K-
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Cox [mailto:dougcox@pdq.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:01 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Gibson and Looping--Not Over Yet?
> I do hope that Kim or Matthias or Andy or someone is getting these kinds
> of comments back to the geniuses at Gibson?  There's something
> fundamentally flawed in what's going on with the EDP (my opinion,
> obviously).  It seems like really bad business, or more likely, those
> typical disconnected, illogical, profit-draining decisions that
> companies start to make when they are confused about their strategy with
> a particular product.
> Read it, boys.  If you're backing out of the product, then get the hell
> out and give someone a shot.  If not, get off of your butts, pay for the
> machines, and then SELL THEM TO PEOPLE.
> Unreal.
> Doug
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paolo Valladolid" <paolovalladolid@yahoo.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Gibson and Looping--Not Over Yet?
> > I hope so.  Better yet, somebody reproduces the EDP
> > features in a different unit (not made by Gibson).
> >
> > I wanted to order one, but none of the stores had any
> > in stock.  Then I found out about the Gibson warehouse
> > mess.
> >
> > So I got an Emu XL-7 instead and put down a deposit on
> > the EH16 reissue.
> >
> > Paolo
> >
> > --- Gary Lehmann <hqr@cox.net> wrote:
> > > ---->  Surely it is only a matter of time before the
> > > EDP comes back to
> > > market.
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paolo Valladolid
> > > <snip>
> > > Gibson allowing 300+ EDPS to rot in a warehouse
> > > because they took forever to
> > > pay for them.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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