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Dr. Z , Okay, you win. The DD-20 is no Eventide -- though I don't exactly really remember ever implying that it was. However, it does (in whatever minimal way) provide 2 potentially asynchronous delay lines -- yes, without those exact features you mention. Funny, I must've missed that part of the thread. I was not aware that they were a requirement for what was being asked about. Sorry, I was only trying to help. I'll keep my own council next time . . . heheh. Best regards, Ted Killian In a message dated 5/23/04 12:24:25 PM, zvonar@zvonar.com writes: >When I think about working with two asynchronous loops I assume >complete independence of the loops. This includes being able to >record them both at the same time or at different times and it >means being able to modify or re-record each loop freely. > >I get the impression that the DD-20 is more constrained than that.