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At 3:58 PM -0400 5/23/04, ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote: >Okay, you win. The DD-20 is no Eventide -- though I don't >exactly really remember ever implying that it was. However, >it does (in whatever minimal way) provide 2 potentially >asynchronous delay lines -- yes, without those exact >features you mention. Funny, I must've missed that part >of the thread. I was not aware that they were a requirement >for what was being asked about. Sorry, I was only trying >to help. I'll keep my own council next time . . . heheh. No pissing contest intended, though I was a little put off by the absolutism of your "In a word: YES" Frankly, I haven't been paying that close attention to these threads, but became interested because the asynchronous delays feature is something that was a formative element of my own practice. My first delay-oriented listening was to Steve Reich's "Come Out" and to Pauline Oliveros's "I of IV," both of which depended on multiple delays. When I started working with digital delays in performance I used a PCM 42 and a Deltalabs DL-4. Each was fed by a separate aux send from a mixer. Therefore the idea of multiple delay lines with complete independence of routing and parameter control was essential to everyting I did. I never did use a setup that is probably the most common: a series connection of instrument -> processor A -> processor B -> [whatever] -> amp. I also never performed beat-oriented music. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com