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Yes I'd go for something like the Vortex.. but I'm trying to stay away from a rack. The idea is to tuck it behind the EH-16 on my shelf. In my journey I keep coming across the Korg Pandora PX4 for pretty low prices. I used to have a toneworks pedal... the ax something... I thought it was way cool when used in front of my Ampeg amp. I'm thinking I may try out a PX4 and see if I can disable it's amp models (can you? The manual I downloaded seemed very light on information) and just use modulations, delays and reverbs. It's more money than I initially thought I'd spend... but it always is. Mark On Jul 2, 2004, at 3:54 PM, nick douglas wrote: > Mark, > > For similar or less money, a used Lexicon Vortex makes a great > post-looper stereo-izer with morphing tap-tempo delay-based effects > feeding a stereo panner in one rack space with foot- and > expression-pedal control. It has that lush Lexicon tone (love it or > hate it). If you can tolerate a rack unit, check out > http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/vortex.htm and this lists archives. > > Ever grateful, > Nick > >