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> > maybe your problem is not with Kim who wrote the manual but with me > who created most of the content. I prefered it to be intuitive rather > than logic. this was an amazing experience. maybe the funcionality > fits less to your focussed music, but you will find enough... It's not so bad. I have no problem with anyone. It is important to understand that all music is intuitive to begin with. I know we all know this. My music condensed in that the classical guitar eats up form and spits out something different in the formal sense. The range is small but the application of the instrument is solo so you have to work in extreme limitations. A good thing. >> I also understand, and I've known this for a long time, that the more >> canned the more dried of blood and guts. > > your language is not easy to understand for me either :-) > also: "church lady"? The Church Lady is a woman who is tremendously restrictive and totally bound to church dogma. Blood and guts=abandonment and subject to full momentary expression. Canned=prepared before the execution. > >> That's my main area of inquiry into the whole looping thing. What >> is we're looking for as looping artists? I've used terms like >> masturbation and self aggrandizing and lumping myself into those >> descriptions when I consider looping but I am an adult and use >> language that may be a bit unnerving to those who are following some >> kind of holy writ of looping that may unconsciously exist. > > big question, really. masturbation is a good thing. aggrandizing and > lumping also meet strong parts of the experience. Instant (soul/mood) > mirror is still the strongest and most holy for me. Holy, boy I use language that I now don't care for. Nothing is holy in my mind. When people deem something holy it becomes fixed and cannot be changed. That is what really bothers me about loops. This is my job, to make a loop and change it into something that was unaccounted for. Found art. Composition is codified improvisation. The moment carved into a sculpture of time. Manuals aside, thanks for the great unit! I'll get what I want out of it sooner or later. 5 years ago I had two Jammans and had different ideas about what a loop was. It was easy and required not too much though just a foot and some hands, not much brain. Now, with the EDP, my brain hurts because of the options and my differing thoughts about the loop. A new adventure? OK, I am a Boy Scout. Larry Cooperman New Millennium Guitar http://www.newmillguitar.com