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Calling the writer of the manual an idiot is a little rude IMO. As a matter of fact I must state that the EDP manaul isnīt an example of clarity and immediate understandability (if thatīs a word) becuase the ongoing differentiation between terms like loop, beat etc. puzzles me but this may be due to my own personal approach to things which is a more intuitive one (I donīt bother to think too much while I want to be creative, and structures do have the drawback of being mostly totally different from how Iīd organize them). Also, I miss simple troubleshooting hints (that would for instance help me resolving the syncing problems I currently have) as this would make a lot of things easier. Stephen "Human beings are a disease, the cancer of this planet, youīre a plague. And we are the cure." (Agent Smith / Matrix) Visit the official [īramp] website at www.doombient.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luca Bonvini" <lucabonvini@free.fr> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:03 AM Subject: EDP Manual Organization was: The echoplex manual s......Re: The Echoplex Manual Sucks and the Guy That Wrote It Is an Idiot > Hello from a beginner EDP to the other beginners, > > To learn faster the EDP I went around the two manuals (Echoplex and Loop > IV....I'm not sure an unified one exist yet). Tired of the process of > updating myself from one manual to the other I copied them section by > section to a file on a word processor. I have ordered the entries by > button (Record, Overdub etc...and not in alphabetical order) and > inserted the LoopIV upgrades paragraphs related at the end of every > single button of the echoplex part. I did this first part only > considering Moreloop=1 and then I'll have to go through the second part > that begins when moreloops is different than 1 (and I'm aware that this > will be something...). I'm still editing: reading in this sequence > seems evident that few parts of echoplex manual seems no more actually > valid and may be erased from my text. Sometimes a specification > (Quantize=on or Quantize=off and may be more) need to be added as a > reminder because at some points in the Echoplex manual this is specified > only in the Figures and not in the text. I can go through my own manual > methodically starting with the different parameters of every button and > the different alternate ending, trying practically all the steps and > alternate steps....etc...it seems to flow and I can keep it...looping > until I get it, besides playing for fun trying to make work in real time > the already assimilated hints... > > This I did only with the hope to digest earlier and more orderly and > completely the functionality of this amazing loop processor and it seem > to become more clear fast. The original manuals seems very good > considering the amount of material they have to deal with. > > When is ready I can share it with whoever need it and think he cannot do > it by himself. > > Feedback 100%, please, > > Best Regards, Luca > > BTW: Changing the length of the loop using Record as alternate ending of > Multiply with quantize off works as described but, as I was trying to do > it with quantize on in the beginning I noticed that sometimes ending > multiply with a longer press of record (Quantize=on) also redefine the > loop length seemingly at the release of the record. Is it possible? > >