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This is close Read the information change the settings on your EDP and follow the bouncing ball read it soon as you can never know when it might disappear. Somebody should have paid him for his work on this or at least to keep it up and available. My one CD purchase could only go just so far hmm, here's a thought buy a CD if you feel like you learned something! -----Original Message----- From: toejam00@mac.com [mailto:toejam00@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:54 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP manual My two cents regarding the EDP manual. It's great for what it does. But it would be awfully nice to have some sort of a tutorial. Most units for sale on eBay are accompanied by some kind of comment by the seller that they didn't have the time to learn how to use it, or that it was too complicated. If there was some kind of tutorial to help people get beyond the record and overdub buttons, I think more people would hang onto their units, thus forcing eBay buyers to buy new ones. Which in my opinion would have a positive effect on user satisfaction and sales considerably. Right now it seems that the EDP is primarily a tool for the very intelligent esoteric musicians, who play to "crowds" of 10 to 15 like-minded people. A tutorial for the rest of us would get (or perhaps keep) the EDP into the hands of people who play the fun stuff for bigger crowds. Just my $.02. tj