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Doug, > I haven't been able to convince myself to pay the $950 > they're asking now... Just be thankful you don't have to have it shipped to Europe. I just took the plunge and bought a new EDP from a US dealer. What with shipping, import duty and VAT (25%!) it cost me about 1000 Euro in all. That's still at least 150-350 Euro cheaper than what European dealers charge - if they actually had them in stock, that is! So I still think I got a good deal. I've seen people selling second-hand beigeface EDPs for 950 EURO on Ebay ... -- Ian Petersen