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There's a lot of variables to consider. And, to a degree, the looper you choose will dictate a fair amount of the structure of what you'll play. I'm unaware of any pedal looper that supports loop copy or multiply features, so that you can start with a cell loop of say, four bars, then copy that to another loop while overdubbing and switch between the loops. If your base loop is a percussion track (tapping and slapping an acoustic guitar, for example) then you can build verse/chorus sections in a smooth, real time manner. Loop multiply allows you to take a base loop and then buld a new loop consisting of copies of that loop, with or without overdubbing which can occur in real time. So, if you have a four bar base loop you can create a "verse" which is twelve or sixteen bars, and a chorus which is eight bars, and so on. The EDP supports this, and I believe the Repeater also does. Without loop copy ability, you'd have to record a base loop for your first loop, then repeat the procedure for your second loop. So if you were looking to create the sixteen bar verse and eight bar chorus I mentioned, you'd have to play those twenty-four bars before you could start overdubbing more parts (chords, bass line, harmony, etc). It can be done, but it can take longer and it's not as flexible. Which brings us to the pricing and rack vs. pedal issue. If you're looking for something that sits on the floor and costs less than $500, then you might want to consider a Boomerang, which supports up to two loops with a variety of performance oriented features. If you can spend more and aren't rack-gear adverse, then the EDP or Repeater might be better suited to what you're trying to do. On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 12:42:49 -0500, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: > Hi everyone! > I used to have a digitech sampler/delay but it fell into disuse based on >the > music I was doing. I want to get back into sound on sound and some basic > looping and digital delays but things have evolved so much in the 7 >years since > I last used sample/delay/sos. I play solo with an acoustic guitar on >stage. > Since these are being used primarily for LIVE performances, anyone have >any > ideas on what I could do? I'm thinking of returning the DD20 and >possibly the > RC20 (though I got it to do some cool stuff) because of it's *immediate* >cutoff > on the looping. (Heck for the money for both of these ,I could midi-ize >the > guitar instead, which would take me in a slightly different >direction-granted)