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Well i plug into a Littlelabs Instrument Distro 3.0 which is a re-amping module, with D.I. ect, and it's cut most hiss, so i don't hear my main signal through the Echo-Plex at all, only the looped signal. so i can have an Echo-plex D.I. signal, plus my main signal separate, and it's made a huge difference having that separation. http://www.littlelabs.com/ On 06/03/2005, at 5:03 AM, Tom Combs wrote: > Ha...I dug through the archives and found this (see below). I did as > Kim suggested (more input, less output) and now I'm getting much > better performance. > > It makes sense to me now. Learn something new everyday... > > Thanks to everyone for your input. > > Tom > > > > > http://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200406/msg00558.html > > From Kim Flint to Jesse Lucas..... > > At 02:48 PM 6/25/2004, Jesse Ray Lucas wrote: >> Tell me that my gain staging is wrong, but it doesn't matter if I go >> direct >> in, or through a preamp. I've can have a healthy green light on the >> input >> signal indicator and the output cranked up, but the loops always seem >> to >> have mad hiss to them. > > probably your gains are set wrong. Turn the input up higher, and the > output lower to compensate. If it isn't clipping or the limiter isn't > obviously kicking in, you have more headroom to use. Make sure you are > using the loop path for setting gains, as it has less dynamic range > than the direct. If you don't use the full dynamic range, the noise > floor ends up sounding relatively louder. That is probably what you > are experiencing. > >> Not the direct signal, just the loop playback. > > The digital path (of anything usually) has less dynamic range than the > analog path, and so will have a higher relative noise floor when > compared to the analog path. > > > > > > > > kim > > > > Jesse Lucas wrote: > >> Tom Combs wrote: >> >>> Well, with nothing plugged into the input, and the input level set >>> to minimum, where is the possibility of improper gain staging on my >>> part? The output of my EDP goes directly into a Mackie 1202-VLZ >>> Pro. If there were a gain problem associated with the output stage >>> of the EDP, then I'd expect to hear the hiss when a loop is not >>> playing.. >> >> >> I'm just passing on the answers which were handed to me before. Not >> saying I believe them or anything. >> >> You learn to live with it, or you move on and find something else >> that works for you. >> >> I have a preference for dirty sound, so incorporating the EDP's hiss >> wasn't that big a deal for me. Still, sometimes it would be nice if >> it was clean. >> >> -J >> >