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At the risk of offending, I vote for the DL4, follwed closely by the RC-20. Both of these are easy to use-you can be looping in minutes! Also each has the necessary sample time. I favor the RC-20 for this situation as you can store loops and it also has loads more sample time. But the DL4 is an actual delay pedal--and that winds up being more artful in the end--making it a better deal. If you can afford an extra hundred, the Boomerang is probably also a good choice. This one might be good: http://www.backline-eng.com/ Gary -----Original Message----- From: nato sp [mailto:natosp@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:27 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Hello all, I just subscribed to the list a moment ago to ask a question. I'd appreciate any answer(s) that I can get. I'm interested in a very simple and, if possible, inexpensive looping pedal. I play guitar and sing in a band. Many times, my guitar parts are complex and require all of my concentration. Therefore I can't play them while I sing. Because of this, I'd like to have a pedal that can loop a riff of 10 seconds or less while I am playing live. I don't need or want any other functions, I don't need to be able to overlay loops upon one another. Do my needs conjure up ideas about particular pedals? I've been doing my best to read up on all the different options, from delays to loopers to samplers etc. but am having trouble finding the right thing. Please help! Thanks, nato