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And to keep this thread on topic: when looping underwater in the southern hemisphere one must bear in mind the Coriolis Effect, particularly if your rig includes a Vortex. <http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html> It can also require a different wet/dry mix than most of us are used to... :P -t- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com