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Hmmm.... I couldn't find "The Hidden UnroundedMultiplyReverse Function" in the EDP manual: http://www.gibsonechoplex.com/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf but in the LoopIVGuide: http://www.aurisis.com/products/loopIV/LoopIVGuide.pdf The paragraph reads: The Hidden UnroundedMultiplyReverse Function In LoopIII the limitation with Multiply cross functions that forced us to do them Unrounded resulted in one function that some users liked. If Mutliply was going and overdubs were being made over the top, ending with a single button press of Reverse immediately changed the length of the loop to that point and instantly put the resulting UnroundedMultiply into reverse. This was an interesting use, but after we made the improvements that allowed us to do Multiply cross functions Rounded it was only possible by doing two button presses. (With two button presses, you do it like this: end Multiply with Reverse, then press Record during the Rounding period to set the new loop length and immediately have it in reverse.) So for the user who lost this favorite function, we found a way to give it back to him. It is a little bit obscure in operation, so bear with us. Set MoreLoops to some number greater than 1. Set SwitchQuantize on to Confirm. (any quantizing value works, but it is easiest with Confirm.) Record your basic loop in Loop 1. Press NextLoop. You will go into the "Confirming" state, where it waits for another function press before it goes into the next loop. Press Multiply down and hold it down. This will immediately put you into the next loop, copying the audio from the first loop. Overdub as much as you want over multiples of your first loop. When you are ready, release Multiply. The loop in Loop 2 will immediately stop copying, reset the loop length to that point, and go into Reverse! So there is the old UnroundedMultiplyReverse function, now properly called NextUnroundedSUSMultiplyReverse. When InsertMode is equal to SUS, this function is disabled in favor of the usual UnroundedMultiply SUS function. So after all, it's worth reading the LoopIV guide alongside the EDP manual. I always thought the LoopIV guide was fully integrated into the most recent EDP manual... Bernhard > -----Original Message----- > From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Freitag, 25. Marz 2005 11:23 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Re: Mobius Beta 7 Available > > > At 20:31 23/03/05, you wrote: > >>Talk to Jeff about what is missing not me I am just an > enthusiastic user. I > >>will agree with one thing for sure if you don't have an FCB1010 > and an ASIO > >>capable card (PCI) you won't get as much out of this program. > > hi Tony, > Quite right, and luckily he saw anyway. > > The EDP has a lot of features designed to allow the manipulation of loops > well beyond the the "loop/overdub/feedback" norm. > Mobius incorporates some of those, particularly the more commonly used > ones, it also has new features not found in the EDP. I don't see it as > having stuff missing, rather that it's a different beast altogether which > incorporates a lot of EDP ideas. > > I'm partly responsible for some of the EDP Interface Modes, so probably I > overestimate their importance ( there's plenty of stuff in there no-one > exploited yet). > > hi Jeff > Your take on Loop Windowing sounds very promising. > > > "Reverse Snipplets" was an effect that was easy in loop3. > Ending a Multiply with Reverse would cause the loop length to be > cut where > the Reverse was pressed( UnRounded Multiply) so I could play a > short phrase > over a loop, and then have it Reversed and Repeated , with a > small section > of loop as backing. By using Nextloop to create the "Snipplet" it was > possible to leave the original loop intact and return to it. > > In Loop4 the Multiply function was improved so that alternate > endings would > still give a RoundMultiply, and Reverse Snipplets required a second press > of Reverse to make them happen > (not so easy to get good timing on what is anyway a difficult > technique to > pull off) > > Against his better judgement, I eventually persuaded Matthias to put > "Reverse Snipplets" into Loop4. > "The Hidden UnroundedMultiply Reverse Function" (in the manual) > was the result. > As far as I know, only Andre LaFosse ever found the function. > > "Snipplets" is a word in a language called Switznglish, the meaning is > self evident. > > andybutler > > > > > > >