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I was particularly fond of stutter mode myself found it very useful. Right now getting scripting seems to have become a higher priority and some alternate endings aren't working exactly like an EDP. Why not signup and nudge Jeff on some of these feature or better yet push the envelope a little that seems to be something you manage to do pretty well Andy :) It could only serve to make Mobius better yet -----Original Message----- From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Mobius Beta 7 Available At 20:31 23/03/05, you wrote: I'm partly responsible for some of the EDP Interface Modes, so probably I overestimate their importance ( there's plenty of stuff in there no-one exploited yet). hi Jeff Your take on Loop Windowing sounds very promising. "Reverse Snipplets" was an effect that was easy in loop3. Ending a Multiply with Reverse would cause the loop length to be cut where the Reverse was pressed( UnRounded Multiply) so I could play a short phrase over a loop, and then have it Reversed and Repeated , with a small section of loop as backing. By using Nextloop to create the "Snipplet" it was possible to leave the original loop intact and return to it. In Loop4 the Multiply function was improved so that alternate endings would still give a RoundMultiply, and Reverse Snipplets required a second press of Reverse to make them happen (not so easy to get good timing on what is anyway a difficult technique to pull off) Against his better judgement, I eventually persuaded Matthias to put "Reverse Snipplets" into Loop4. "The Hidden UnroundedMultiply Reverse Function" (in the manual) was the result. As far as I know, only Andre LaFosse ever found the function. "Snipplets" is a word in a language called Switznglish, the meaning is self evident. andybutler