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All this information is great! I asked about the pedal-loopers because I saw one in action for about $400--it was being demonstrated so the store was pushing to sell. ...but that's just over the top for me but it intrigued me because of what it did. So here's the full rundown of why I'm looking for something. My guitar teacher said both my son and I would be more comfortable playing improv over simple chord tracks if we did it at home...so we started practising with a regular tape recorder. Yes, we do play together every once in awhile--but he's into different music :) SO--Then I went to a nearby Guitar Center and they showed me the 4-track digital recorder by Tascam. Interesting and easy to work-but as i saw all the reviews that you couldn't really hear the first track recording when trying to play over it (You had to record mega loud)--my teacher said to look at digital recorders, loopers and phrase samplers in the lower end price range--Ah--I'm getting at least the lingo. Here's what we (I) want it for. We want to lay down a track (or two) --for example with Blues: I want to record a running length of 12-bar blues and then loop that so I can attempt to practice some fingering over that--I want the looping capability so I don't have to stop and rewind a tape (which is what we do right now). I don't want to record for 45 minutes on a regular tape--which is why I want some sort of repeater/loop. Not looking for tons of effects---maybe my son at a later date (but then I'd buy something better....but for now, it's just an opportunity for us to each practice/jam by ourselves and have some fun thinking we sound decent! For current equipment, we have a Fender electric and an Ovation acoustic/electric ---both at this time using the same large amp meant for acoustic guitars. Does this help clarify? I don't object to paying more---I just don't think I need a recording studio or want to spend a whole lot of money for something I want to be able to just "record a bit" and play. If there's something out there with a minimal of extras and -for me-easy to operate-that's what I'm looking for. So far-saw reviews for Tascam, Zoom, Boss, Bommerrang, some Axe pedal thing--but it's all greek to me. I don't really live near a great music store so this would be something I'd have to buy untested, unless the consensus is for that Guitar Center Tascam cassette recorder. So---any and all advice welcomed--I appreciate it all! > From: Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:32:20 -0800 (PST) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: basic loop equipment > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:32:26 -0500 > > > --- Dan Mayfield <contact@danmayfield.com> wrote: >> I think a basic 4 track recorder like a >> Tascam/Fostex etc.. would serve your >> needs better than a looper. > > How so? The original post was a request for more > information about pedal-based loopers for practicing > lead lines over a repeating 12 bar pattern. She said > nothing about wanting to overdub multiple tracks or > keep a finished recording, and I would imagine she'd > prefer to get the background pattern happening by > playing it once without having to remove her fingers > from the strings rather than filling the tape with 45 > minutes of I-IV-V or rewinding at the end of every > twelve bars. > >> Or maybe you >> play solos while you son plays 12 bar and then >> change round. > > There's a lot to be said in favor of THAT too! :) > > -t- > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >