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You got it, Per! A beautiful scenario: 1. Lay down a 30 second, lush ambient soundscape loop with effects A, B, and C 2. Lay down another layer of melodic work with effects B, C, and F 3. Lay down a solo loop with effects A and H. ...and so on. It provides a lot of freedom and power to compose what you want and keep it in the loop cycles. Kris -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:per@boysen.se] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping in Stereo ("Karmic Looping", "N:o 2") Hi, A very interesting one, this thread about stereo looping! When I had a Repeater I tended to use it like (S V G) Stephen; looping my monophonic instruments and "stereoizing" the signal by different Repeater tricks (automatic panning sequences, bringing a mono track output through an added stereo fx etc etc). This is also today one of my fav techniques with the EDP; I bring the EDP mono output into an AKAI analog filterbank that can create a stereo immage (even a rhythmically pulsating stereo image since filterbank LFOs follow tempo divisions of the EDP clock and also that high and low frequencies are differently distributed in the stereo field). However, lately I've become very fond of playing with a stereo processed sound and record that into stereo loops. Instead of "mangling my loops output" I now tend to reshape the loops all the time by playing new material into them. And the material I play into the loops is very processed. It's like the effect processor becomes a vital part of the instrument played, not part of the looper (as with my old approach). So I'm definitely with Kris on "stereo looping". What I like with it is that it's so incredibly fast. Simply play some weird stuff with your fx-processor and cut slices of it into the loop, or blend it carefully on top of the loop as a layer by the feedback pedal technique. --> Karmic Looping I also tend to play more with the loopers constantly in overdub mode. This gives a new dimension to improvisation because you do not "play on top of a background". When playing lead melodies you are in fact creating the future background that you will have to play your next generation of lead lines over. It's like Karma - what you give is what you get. --> Two For The Loop In the text above, when I typed "my loopers" I meant two. I rarely use more than two synchronized looping devices at the same time. I've done three, but then I thought the process of keeping three parallel musical evolutions cooking in an interesting way restricted the creative flow of the music. It made me feel more like a remix engineer than like a musician ;-) It seems the number of two is good for looping! In my experience the most interesting music is created when two looping musicians improvise together. I've found the duo format more creative than solo performances or bigger ensembles. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.looproom.com (international) www.boysen.se (Swedish) ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) www.cdbaby.com/perboysen