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> a VST host and a key set of VST effects will > $#@!*&#@ your sound up more than anything I can think of > for a fraction of the price of multiple equivalent hardware units. Let's hear it for VST effects and $#@!*&#@ your sound up! As an extreme (and nerdy) example of this, I wrote a Python program which hosts VST plugins and randomizes the parameters of them while playing various wave files through them. The mp3 files here: http://nosuchmedia.com/tjt/bm/radio/ show examples of the audio that this can produce. I'd be interested to know of any live VST-hosting environments that can randomize VST effect parameters. It's easy to implement and can be lots of fun. ...Tim...