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Andy, et al: Should we be avoiding Substitute in MIDI control altogether? I know Andy says "Direct MIDI" below, and that's SUSSubstitute (Note A#, 22) but there's also "MIDI button" SubstituteButton (Note A#, 10). > You need to set > InsertMode = Sub > and use Insert for the substitutes. > The Direct MIDI substitute doesn't have the "bugfix" behaviour, > so if you release the Subst before it starts the EDP will just go > permanently > into Substitute (and erase the loop). > > Quantise = 8th > 8th/cycle = 8 (or whatever) .David. "Button, button, who has the button?" a k butler wrote: > >> I set my quantize to 8th notes, but I need to know what Switches and >> Timing parameter settings to use to get the following to work right: >> Press Record, play a few measures of 8th note melody work, press >> record again to play back, start playing some longer duration notes >> and hit the Substitute button a bunch of times in a row while you're >> playing...the result is an interesting rhythmic effect with those >> little 8th note slices of material popping in and out, all quantized >> to 8th notes. The problem is that the way I have my Switches and >> Timing parameters set now, when I try this, the subtituted notes pop >> in but then after the first cycle of looping, everything stops...no >> sound. I'm guessing that I need to change one of the first four >> settings (along the EDP conrol panel or buttons) under Switches and >> Timing, such as Record Mode, Overdub Mode, Round Mode, Loop/Delay, >> etc. Any recommendations on what these should be set at? > > > You need to set > InsertMode = Sub > and use Insert for the substitutes. > The Direct MIDI substitute doesn't have the "bugfix" behaviour, > so if you release the Subst before it starts the EDP will just go > permanently > into Substitute (and erase the loop). > > Quantise = 8th > 8th/cycle = 8 (or whatever) > > > > You don't have to start by playing 8th notes if you don't want to :-) > > These days I start with a loop of 7+ seconds of ambient. > Then hit mult, > ...wait for the 000 to disappear, > and straight away hit rec. > > That way I get a nice loop length for 8th stuff. > > The thing that people find hard is that it's real easy to keep > replacing the same notes, and harder to do the ones you missed. > Not such a problem if you play a melody that floats over the rhythm, > and then just pick out some notes from that. > > Another trick is play a 3 beat rhythm > 1.............2..........3..........1..........2...........3..... > note......foot.....rest.......note......foot........rest......... > which can quickly replace all the notes in the sequence. > > > > It's better to "Sub" after hitting the note, rather than simultaneous > with it. > > refer to "Backwater", on my cd, or from y2k5 > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > >