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Although I own and use the mysterious PMC-10, it would be great if the Looperlative had a MIDI learn function that used Patch Changes to execute its functions--so we could use the more available MIDI foot controllers. Gary -----Original Message----- From: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:44 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looperlative control One more thing on a related note.... Enough (and that is an arguable and subjective quantity, to be sure) of the Looperlative's capabilities *must* be immediately usable/available so the buyer can get a feel for what is possible. If the capabilities in the Looperlative are only really accessible after programming a midi footpedal, that makes it very hard to try-out or evaluate in a store. It this happens, then the best sales tool you have is the Users Manual, which for the potential buyer becomes the only way to know what is possible. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kirkdorffer" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: looperlative control > Cool. We disagree. You like mucking about in midi. I don't. > > I disagree that "excellence" in footpedal design would be required. > > An EDP style footpedal (Record, Overdub...) with one more button to >switch > "Loop Tracks" would widen the market for a Looperlative rackmount device >a > lot. > > The alternative is to require the purchase and programming of a > midi-footpedal so you can start and stop "Record" with your feet (because > your hands are busy on an instrument or because your rack is 15 feet away). > That right there will severely limit the market for this cool new tool. > > That stated, I assume there will be no footpedal for the Looperlative. And > we can argue till the cows come home how much of a market is cut-off by > requiring the purchase and programming of a midi footpedal for the > Looperlative. > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Ritchford" <tom@swirly.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:26 PM > Subject: Re: looperlative control > > > I don't agree at all. MIDI footpedals are cheap and plentiful -- you > can just get one and plug it in the back. Excellence at looper design > doesn't imply excellence at footpedal design... I'd rather the time > was spent improving the looperlative rather than designing Yet Another > Footpedal. > > On 12/31/05, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote: > > Steve - Thanks for your answer. I'm a non-midi person. I don't use > > laptops. My selfish desire is to have a EDP style footpedal (Record, > > Overdub...) with one more button to switch "Loop Tracks." That would get > me > > a lot - perhaps more than I can imagine fully using right there. > > > > And I would very humbly suggest that such a non-midi footpedal would open > > the Looperlative up to a much larger marketplace of buyers. :-) > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> > > To: "Loop List" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:57 PM > > Subject: looperlative control > > > > > > > >>>So - if I'm understanding the implications of this posting, the > > > Looperlative > > > requires a Midi interface / footpedal to operate its functions. But, > > > does > > > that mean no functions are controllable without midi?<<< > > > > > > have a look at www.looperlative.com - the picture there shows the > > > front panel, which has button control for rec/overdub, play/stop and > > > then four user programmable buttons to whatever functions you want to > > > have on them. I have mine set to 'stop now' (the play/stop button is > > > quantised to the end of the loop), 'erase', 'all stop' and, er, > > > something else I can't remember... > > > > > > you can also access all the possible operations on any one track via > > > the buttons and dial (at the moment I'm doing all my feedback control > > > via the buttons and dial), and same with all the global functions > > > (overall volume, play all, stop all, etc.) > > > > > > But in case it's what you were asking, there are no other ways to > > > connect controllers at the moment than via the MIDI port - though I > > > guess it could be possible for Bob to write some kind of ethernet > > > thingie into the controller features at some point so you could rig > > > something up via your PC. > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > Steve > > > www.stevelawson.net - site > > > www.stevelawson.net/store/ - shop > > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar >