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I'm all for taking that anger and making more music of it. So if you hate rap, gangsta rap, death metal, etc, etc...then who knows, maybe that might make good inspiration for a dark ambient looping piece. Take a chain saw to an iron cast frying pan...loop that. > BUT..........what if the anger & expression lead to physical > manifestations? (i.e. beating the shit out of people, killing folks, > beating the crap out of one's significant other, et al). That's where this thing called taking responsibility for one's own actions comes into play. The last I heard, there is no psychosomatic "necessary" or logical connection between anger and assault and battery, unless we're talking about a real disorder or psychosis (though I can easily switch to my philosophical mode here and posit a theory where everything goes and no one is repsonsible). > Personal expression is great. The older I get, the more I respect those > who don't conform to the norms and express themselves via the arts or >even > just in terms of clothing, hair, whatever. > However, a lot of brainwashing is in effect in modern day society by the > media/advertising/broadcasting conglomerates. And what people are doing > isn't necessarily motivated by their own desire to express themselves >but > rather their expression is a result of being influenced as to what they > should be doing by folks selling stuff. Hmmmm...smells like determinism to me. Are you a determinist? Cool if you are...I'm borderline. Let's not get the rest of the world to buy into that, however....otherwise, we're f*cked. ;) Practically, however, I do still question this power of influence. I don't believe (or disbelieve for that matter) that society is "causing" anyone to do anthing. That remains to be demonstrated. We ultimately absorb our environment and make choices based on that data. We have choices. That is the key here. K- > > > ---- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: >> Sorry folks. It all seems like art and just another form of expression >to >> me. It's all permitted. It's just not reaching out to greet you at the >> door. Of course, I'm repulsed by most of it as well, as some art >should >> do >> to us ina healthy system of artist expression. If it doesn't than what a >> sorry ass, monochromatic, undiverisifed, and basically soporific boring >> world we would live in. Now that would make me angry. Getting angry at >> people getting angry and expressing it via music seems like a tremdous >> waste >> of artistic energy. >> >> Just my 2 cents, man.... >> >> K- >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Todd Pafford" <calenlas@gmail.com> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:21 AM >> Subject: Re: crappy music of the masses >> >> >> Agreed, d.s.. >> >> The anger, hatred, and violence in gangsta & metal genres astounds me. >> What a waste of a day to spend it pissed off at the world. And of >> course there's the rampant consumerism in the pop & hip-hop genres. >> Bleh. >> >> The saddest thing to me is that most hip young people don't read. (Of >> course, it was the same in my day too.) So here we have a situation >> where folks spend all day pissed off, thinking about the latest >> fashions and bling to spend their dough on, and not learning anything >> from several thousand years of human existence and not critically >> thinking about how they're living. It's a sad and pitiable waste of >> life. >> >> T. >> >> On 1/11/06, daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > who keeps pushing this crappy music to the ignorant masses?im >sick >> > of >> > it to the point of violence! the cocaine pushing rap music...the >> > mindless >> > rabble of big guitar rock...all the pedofilic pop music aimed at >> > kids...where is the art? its no puzzel...kill em all and feed em to >the >> > fat >> > greedy humans in buffet lines! >> > angry about it, >> > scary! >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > Yahoo! Photos >> > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, >> > holidays, >> > whatever. >> > >> > >> >> >> > >