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Come on the looperlative isn't too expensive it looks worth the price..... its just that we wish it was cheaper so we could buy it without worrying about money. The price is fair. It would be very nice if you could get a cut down version that had say 4 loops max only a stereo output etc. but I imagine that that wouldn't make commercial sense and would cost almost as much. I personally don't feel the need for eight loops. I personally wouldn't buy a looperlative at the moment because it doesn't have the features i want. In fact what it has at the moment looks quite basic to me compared to an EDP if you remove the eight track capability... however i can see that it has huge potential. It doesn't have the insert functions which I personally find the most interesting part of looping I have said before that I think what Andre is doing is very structurally innovative, I think it was interesting that steve's demo had the sort of backing track idea with loops over the top i.e. record something play over it and play more over it. I personally don't like that musical structure (no disrespect to those that do) and so until the looperlative gets more features it doesn't interest me. Also I never enjoyed the EDPs button menu structure and the looperlative seems to have a similar one. I.e. as more parameters are added they will have to be accessed via that minimal user interface, that would drive me nuts. A scroll wheel and a few buttons thats in some ways actually worse than a mouse. I like the way the boss rc-50 has clearly labeled buttons and knobs, So ergonomically it looks nice. The sync on/off is one button away etc. which makes it very quick and shouldn't disrupt your musical concerntration. Thats why the Dl-4 is so nice, it might be limited but ergonomically its so nice. Its so much fun. So I would very much still like a hardware looper as I prefer not to look as a computer screen but I am not tempted yet. the boss has many wonderfull things about it, nice user interface, flash card support to save files, what appears to be good ergonomics, 3 tracks (more than enough for me) but not quite the looping essentials such as feedback etc. The looperlative looks promising but doesn't really do too much at the moment in terms of loop functions.... and as far as I am aware and I hope I get some of this wrong, has no way to store you loops? has no insert functions? the dial push button interface looks cumbersome. But I am hoping that all these things come soon... However I don't understand why the one dial/push button interface???? Whats the UK price gonna be? i.e. lets say in 6months it has the features I want how much will it cost me here? I wait with interest. geoff