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WRT Max time, two words: "Undo", "Redo". The docs on the EDP make very plain what the memory costs are for undos. I find the "undo" capabilities of the EDP to be completely inadequate for what I want to do in a live looping situation. I think I would find the same problem with the Looperlative even though I don't plan to preload samples. The multiple tracks on the Looperlative may help with that but to keep stuff from sounding too "loopy" I also like to undo and redo overdubs. Looking at a standard 32-bar AABA song format with two beats to the bar and each beat at 80 bpm, one track takes 64 beats/tune divided by 80 bpm equals 48 seconds. 466 seconds stereo time goes fast for multiply layered parts and undos. When I do looping free of standard song structure, I find that my loops tend to be about 100 seconds after muliplying. And I do a lot of undos. This would max out the Looperlative pretty quickly from what I understand. Cheers, Kevin www.TheNettle.com