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On 30 jan 2006, at 11.56, Ben wrote: > I also use a lot the "save all layers" in mobius. This way every > pass is getting recorded and I can also reconstruct the song > afterwards, discarding the mistakes ;-) > The thing is that you need more memory to work this way. Good point! I haven't thought of that. That's a good tip for "reconstrictive recording". Makes me think about a "pre-constructive" recording method I recently tried; using no looper at all but simply playing with an instrument into any recorder whatever you imagine would work good if played back simultaneously as loops instead of in the linear way you record it. Afterward you can go back and cut up the recording into "loops" that you put on parallel tracks for simultaneous playback (like a real-time looping device). It may be OT here but that's actually a musical mind training method that I have found very rewarding. Try to keep as much of the musical structuring "unplayed" in your short time memory and let those underlying structures influence your actually playing. What you may stuff away into your memory (instead of explicitly playing it) may be chord vamps, counter melodies or grooves. Any listener will "hear" them anyway, although maybe differently according to their own references. By practicing that way you can learn to play lines that "imply more than is physically heard". I find that tremendously exciting! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.looproom.com (international) www.boysen.se (Swedish) ---> iTunes Music Store (digital) www.cdbaby.com/perboysen