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On 1/29/06, Kevin <kevin@thenettles.com> wrote: > > >Tom Ritchford wrote: > >>>If I was Bob, at this price point I would be worried about a pirate > >>>like Behringer moving in. > >>the advantage to a heavily-software item like the looperlative is that > >>Behringer would have to copy the software. That would be hard to do > >>without making it provably a copyright violation (rather than just a > >>clone...) > > Allow me to correct a possible misperception here about intellectual > property (IP) law. Patents protect ideas, copyright protects the > expression of those ideas. I can copy an idea if there is no patent > protecting it. Copyright does not protect ideas. If I rip a copy of > the firmware from a product and then put that in my product I am > violating copyright or possibly the product license. A product > license is a contract between the seller and the buyer. > > So provided that the ideas in the EDP were not protected by patent, > Behringer could copy all the ideas, except possibly the user > interface. Under US patent law, if an idea hasn't been patented > within a year of the idea being made publicly available, then it > can't be patented. I'm well aware of all this... but I don't see why this is relevant to my argument. As I said, if Behringer copied the Looperlative's software, it would be a copyright violation. There isn't much preventing them from copying the hardware except conceivably patents. -- /t http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar