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I think Eno summarised this as a fairly simple question : "Is the art in the paint, or is the art in the idea ?" Of course, this isn't an "either/or", but a continuum of possibilities. For me, the art's (mostly) in the idea. How the idea was realised is, in many ways, not terribly relevant. Was it a loop ? Was it a room full of musicians playing one note each every three minutes ? Who really cares ? Having ideas without ability is awful, especially for the poor soul with the ideas who can't realise them. Ability without ideas is differently awful, but awful all the same. No ideas and no ability, well ... (insert joke about your least favourite musical genre here). Just my tuppence worth. (Some would say I'm overcharging.) - Tony __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp