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I lied. > When you say 'use gear to compensate', that's where you lose me. I'll provide a simple illustration. As you guitar players know, playing a clean and articulate arpeggio in 8th or 16th notes takes some time to "master". If you can't do it, it's just as easy to program your processor to arpeggiate a single note you play, and do so in a particular key. Some may say that's just using a processor like an instrument. That's a nice blanket statement that can mean a million things. I call it a cop out, BUT only relative to intent. If I intend an desire to play somehting, but can't do it because I need few more years of practice to do it...so I resort to the gear, I am compensasting for my lack of technical ability. If I can play something, but choose to use the gear to do it for me to allow me to focus on something else artistically, I think that is a different situation. It don't think it is compensating for lack of skill, but making a consious choice to focus skill elsewhere. I know this will not go over will with some folks, especially if they are using gear to compensate for skills, but are not comfortable admitting this. I'll fully admit here, I can't play fingersyle jazz like Joe Pass, playing both bass lines and melody. I am certain I could if I focused on just that for a year or so, but I can't right now. But I can use my looping gear to produce similar output. Am I compensating for lack of skill? Yes. I believe so, and I'll fully admit this...if I could do otherwise, I'd do it, as part of being evolving as a musician. > I do agree that if you remove all gear from the equation, and sit 2 >peopel > down head to head on acoustic guitars, you will be able to better tell >who > is the technically superior guitar player- but IMO, this has *zero* to do > with who is the superior musician. : ) That's a good point. How fast you can play, how many chords and scales you know, for instance, may have nothing to do with artistic merit as a musician. Because remember, not everyone can be a driftwood artist. It takes a special person with incredible artistic vision to identify the appropriate piece of driftwood on the beach and claim it as art. That transcends technical ability. :) Kris Kris