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The Adrenalinn can do all of this, too. It has a variety of filters (the step filter is pretty cool) along with what I find to be nice sounding amp sims (you can turn them off) and a very strange drum machine (also can be turned off). Used = $300 or so, these days. ----- Music: http://www.kellycoyle.net Blog: http://wwwquotidianme.blogspot.com/ On Mar 20, 2006, at 7:40 AM, a k butler wrote: > >> If your broke, listen to Andy and get some sort of >> distortion with some filters. Couple that with a >> volume pedal (I like mine after the distortion and >> before the filter and delay) and you can get some >> pretty synthy tones out of your guitar with no >> glitching. Add and ebow and fun will result. > > yep, that's the ticket. > > After, what's an analog synth but an oscillator running through a > filter. > > The guitar becomes the oscillator, so you just need a filter. > Then all the distortion does is add a load of harmonics (changing > the "oscillator waveform" ) > which give the filter more to work on. > > Even the common wah-wah can sound synthy, if you put the distortion > in front of it. > > If you can get a filter that triggers on each note, that helps, > ..and a similar, but more organic sound can be had if the filter > frequency > responds to the volume of your playing (envelope follower). > > The EH micro-synth has an octave divider too, > that's actually a synthesized tone an octave below the one you put in > ( so if you play more than one note it really glitches). > So if you go for a simple distortion> filter setup you could > always add an octave divider later (Boss OC2 is recommended). > > The Akai MFC-42 filter is available cheap these days, that's > probably worth checking out > (I've never tried one, but Per recommends) > > I actually have, and use the Line 6 Filter Pro. > It does have synth sounds as well as filters, so worth checking out. > I have to say though, that I'm not totally won over by it. > Although it produces a lot of different sounds in one box the synth > tones are > very "digital" sounding, especially in the upper registers. > ( either bad programming by line 6, or just that they didn't have > the processing power to do it properly). > I had to work quite hard to get sounds I thought were acceptable. > > other cheap filters > > MAM Warp 9 , the most synth like, but difficult to program. > > MAM Res 3 , easy to use, ...quirky > > Zoom 1201 has a set of nice auto-filters, some of them triggered, > and some responding to envelope. > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com info & mp3s > > > > > > > > >