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jj 179 wrote: > What are your suggestions on the best way to put a hidden track on an > audio cd these days? I have done both in the past for some of my clients. Audio before the first track within the silence is a matter of the mastering programm and possibly of the CD-player, as the specs demand the pause before the first track to be exact 2 seconds. Any manufacturer who mutes anything before would still make a correct player. Try to play your disc on a different player... The hidden last track isn't that bad, because its likely to be found occasionally by anybody who allows silence in her rooms, you might want to add something which is only accessable for people who like silence... The disadvantage is, that you see it in the display, no way to hide that. But as the colleages already said, you need to know what its for. Typically its a fan bonus for hardcore fans who could share that insider knowledge. But if you want to give a bonus to your fans, let them walk to your website and offer the bonus there, maybe after registering. I think all the music you can download at DGMLive at the moment is a very effective way to bind fans, much more effective than a bonus track. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestalter Electronic Composition & Improvisation /~~~~~\ \\\ /|() ()|\ ))))) )| | |( \\\ /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// -------------------------x---- --_____-----------|----------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---- -- _|_)----|-----()----------- ----------()------------x----- 14, Av. Pr. Franklin Roosevelt, 94320 Thiais, France Phone at CCMIX +33-1-57 42 91 09