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First of all I'd like to say that this is the best loopers-delight thread in a while :-D Let's try to keep up the momentum! >> Max rulez... >> > >Stefan > > >hell YEAH! > >:-) indeed. cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > One of the things that is great about these type of environments is >that it's > so easy to start experimenting... which, I believe, lends itself to more > 'sound/data mangling', much like tweaking parameters on fx, than 'time > based/syncronized' work... as well, I believe time-based stuff can >require more > of a 'programming' mindset, where fx based work is more about just >plugging > objects together... weeeeeell, I actually think it's a lot easier than I would have 2 weeks ago. I'm about three weeks into the demo, but I already have a working - and EXTREMELY flexible - midi clock reader. I did the patch on the train, on the way home from a jam-session. This can easily be used to retrigger buffer playback in a rhythmic fashion. Might be more "programmer"-minded, but definitely NOT hard. IMO. Similarly I did a full hotkey-macro-trigger system in about 30 minutes - in many cases the system is A LOT easier to use than Reaktor - and OTOH some things appear slightly clumsy in max, even though the solution might be a lot more lean, due to the ancient, but efficient gui. The hardest thing about max is knowing which externals to use - there are so many of them! Now I just have a few days left to try out the MSP side some more, before I have to go begging my wife for the cash ;-) a.