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I started with a MoFx (delay capture), than an EDP. Great box. But I wanted to be able to take layers out of the middle of the stack of sounds, w/o disturbing the more recent layers. Kinda impossible on the EDP without buying a whole rack full of them. So, I tried Mobius on a laptop. Ugh. Latency, weird little crackles in the audio (not Mobius's fault there), the hassle of setting up a fragile laptop + Pcmcia card + dangling cables + interface box + booting up and mouseing around + latency issues + audio routing issues...vs. a dedicated rackspace box, no contest. So I waited a few months and spent money I didn't really have on the Looperlative. It solved a problem. If I was just looking at it and thinking, what will this thing do for me that X doesn't, I probably would have waited until I could try it out and until most of the bugs were killed. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? Absolutely...if you know why you're buying it. Other observations- There are no "momentary" (only happens while the switch is held down) actions on the Looperlative. Everything is two actions, one to switch on, one to switch off. A Record w/o overdub is 3 actions- On, Off (goes into overdub) and Off again (to turn off overdub). This makes me think that Bob and the early testers were not trying to push the box to its fullest extent. A quick browse through Steve Lawson's sound samples with the box confirms this notion for me- all his stuff is polite, with discrete loops played at deliberate tempos. Not much stress on the Looperlative. I'm not knocking his playing, but I wonder how many weird bugs are going to pop up when people really start exploiting the box. Will it stand up to hardcore slice and dice manuvers ala David Torn or Andre La Fosse? (And why the hell don't they have one?) Stay tuned... My Two Cents, "Some Dude" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com