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I once saw David Crowder Band in concert, and a particular song was supposed to begin with a canned drum loop, followed by some turntable work before the live band came in. I think that I and a couple other musicians familiar with the technology were the only ones who noticed that anything was wrong. Dave just told a long story about some squirrels while the sound guy and the dj got the issue fixed. Of course, it would have been a little different if he hadn't had a stage full of very professional live musicians playing with him, but I think he probably would have handled it well on his own too. --Josh Krispen Hartung wrote: > Interesting side topic from this...I have yet to experience my laptop > or VST host crash during a performance. So what would I do if this > occurred? I'd naturally play off the prior themes I was creating with > my loops and effects, and continue that thread of feel in solo...just > the guitar, dry with no effects or looping...I'd do that for a while > and then naturally end the piece, take a break, and then reboot. In > short, I'd make it "appear" all planned, like most professionals in > the entertainment business would do. The show must go on. Of course, > the fear of doing otherwise is probably a defect of my compulsive > personality, and an overly exaggurated sense of self-pride in my work. > > I always cringe when most musicians make mistakes or experience gear > issues and then make the audience aware of this in detail, completely > blowing the feel of the performance. Some performers have a good sense > of humor and can pull it off, making jokes and making the audience > laugh at the technological blunder...others stumble around and it > comes across as really awkward and unprofessional. And then my > biggest pet peeve is when performers make mistakes and insist on > telling the audience this, self-deprecating themselves in the process. > "whoops, sorry, oh, let's try that again...sorry, I need to practice, > etc, etc". I feel so embarrassed for people when they do that. I > prefer that they just keep going rather than repeat the mistake or > section ad nauseum, as if they have to get it right to move on. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: Favorite Five Threads on L.D. > > >> >> Do it man! >> i guess the question about correcting a loop that has >> gone wrong would apply more to loops that are supposed >> to be perfect in sync or when trying to play something >> really "groovy" rhythmically.This is why the EDP has >> become my looper of preference,with this machine i can >> comfortably make music out of mistakes,its non latency >> response and well thought out edit capabilities give >> me the most confidence onstage.With the repeater i >> often had little groove problems,i often had to adapt >> to its little latency which made it a bit >> uncomfortable,although i will miss a lot of its cool >> features like panning,pitch shifting track muting etc. >> so i would just say to the audience stay with me folks >> i promise i will get it right;-) >> cheers >> Luis >> >> >> >> >> --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: >> >>> Can I post again? Please? :) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> >>> >>> > what percentage of loopers go and play 100% >>> improvised >>> > loops or arranged premeditated loops on stage? >>> >>> That's my bag all right....everything I do these >>> days is totally >>> spontaneous. It's like doing drugs, but it's legal. >>> >>> > how do you correct a bad loop on stage,stop >>> > abruptly,bullshit your way while tweaking or >>> shoe/rack >>> > gazing until u get it right? >>> >>> To play off a famous quote of Miles Davis, "Do not >>> be afraid of errors. >>> There are no errors", I never play bad or incorrect >>> loops. On occasion, I >>> might play something that doesn't ring well with me >>> emotionally (neither >>> correct nor >>> incorrect), but I always manage to work with it >>> somehow. It becomes part of >>> me just like all my other personality, physical, and >>> psychological flaws as >>> a >>> human being. Even if I loop something rhythmic and >>> my foot fails me (maybe >>> because I have had one too many cups of coffee or >>> drank too much alcohol), >>> generating a loop that is an 8th note longer rather >>> than what my brain >>> wanted to do >>> initially, that instantly becomes the norm and basis >>> of what I do >>> afterwards. I don't really care if I intend on >>> playing a 4/4 phrase but it >>> ends >>> up being 9/8 or 7/8, or even something like 13/8 or >>> 11/8. In fact, I don't >>> even >>> count anymore. I never know what time signature I am >>> in unless I consciously >>> stop to figure it out. It's a waste of my time. >>> Everything is feel to me >>> now. >>> >>> > for those who do or care how do you keep your >>> audience >>> > interested,do you always loop? >>> >>> I loop. I try to talk, but I never say what I want >>> to say. Music is much >>> easer as >>> language for me in public. I prefer to play non-stop >>> and say thank you at >>> the end of the show. >>> >>> > whats the best looping show you´ve been to? what >>> made >>> > it so great? >>> >>> I really enjoyed watching Jeff Kaiser, Rick Walker, >>> and Ted Killian >>> at the Boise Experimental Music Festival. I liked >>> it when some folks >>> were talking in the crowd, and then Jeff started >>> looping him self >>> whispering "stop talking". Classic, I loved it. And >>> their set was great. >>> Good chemistry, lots of space and diverse sounds, >>> etc, etc. >>> >>> > What makes you feel free while playing >>> music?organized >>> > or improvised? >>> >>> Improvised...as free as a person can get, at least, >>> metaphorically. I tend >>> to subscribe >>> to hard determinism these days...no free will, just >>> chemistry, neurons, >>> cause and effect, and necessity. I think I'm >>> determined to do what I do. >>> Everything is a result of a cause, ad infinitum. >>> That would be an >>> unproveable premise, btw. >>> >>> > i know some of this has been brought up in the >>> past >>> > perhaps but i think we all could use a >>> refreshment! >>> > Luis >>> >>> Thanks for asking! >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >>> >>> > --- tEd ® kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hehehe, it would be nice to hear from some of the >>> >> young'ins . . . >>> >> >>> >> Some of my favorites went something like: >>> >> >>> >> 1. Why do you play (or loop) -- what was the >>> journey >>> >> that brought you >>> >> here? >>> >> >>> >> 2. Where does your music come from -- what >>> inspires >>> >> you to create it? >>> >> >>> >> 3. What are some of your musical influences -- >>> or >>> >> looping influences >>> >> -- and why? >>> >> >>> >> 4. What are some of your favorite ways of using >>> >> your instrument or FX >>> >> gear in manners other than that it was designed >>> for? >>> >> >>> >> 5. What keeps you going -- sustains you when you >>> run >>> >> into a "wall", >>> >> carries you through when obstacles arise or when >>> >> you're simply tired, >>> >> uninspired or "bored" -- or what gets you out of >>> a >>> >> musical "rut." >>> >> >>> >> Peace, >>> >> >>> >> tEd ® kiLLiAn >>> >> >>> >> "Different is not always better, but better is >>> >> always different" >>> >> >>> >> http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html >>> >> http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian >>> >> http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html >>> >> http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? >>> >> >>> >> step=view_profile&id=121197000042 >>> >> >>> >> Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available >>> at: >>> >> Apple iTunes, >>> >> BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, >>> >> DiscLogic, Napster, >>> >> AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, >>> >> Etherstream, >>> >> RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, >>> >> Puretracks, >>> >> and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, >>> blah. >>> >> So??? >>> >> >>> >> On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:30 PM, loop.pool wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > So many people have joined this list in recent >>> >> years >>> >> > that it might be fun to revisit some of the >>> >> classic threads >>> >> > on creativity, discussions of philosophy, >>> >> techniques for improving >>> >> > live performances, etc. >>> >> > >>> >> > I know that, personally, these are always the >>> >> threads that have >>> >> > fascinated >>> >> > me and made me love being on this list. >>> >> > >>> >> > The oldtimers have weighed in on these subjects >>> >> but it would be cool >>> >> > to hear what the newest loopers have to say. >>> >> > >>> >> > What were your favorite five threads on this >>> list >>> >> === message truncated === >> >> >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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