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Interesting side topic from this...I have yet to experience my laptop or VST host crash during a performance. So what would I do if this occurred? I'd naturally play off the prior themes I was creating with my loops and effects, and continue that thread of feel in solo...just the guitar, dry with no effects or looping...I'd do that for a while and then naturally end the piece, take a break, and then reboot. In short, I'd make it "appear" all planned, like most professionals in the entertainment business would do. The show must go on. Of course, the fear of doing otherwise is probably a defect of my compulsive personality, and an overly exaggurated sense of self-pride in my work. I always cringe when most musicians make mistakes or experience gear issues and then make the audience aware of this in detail, completely blowing the feel of the performance. Some performers have a good sense of humor and can pull it off, making jokes and making the audience laugh at the technological blunder...others stumble around and it comes across as really awkward and unprofessional. And then my biggest pet peeve is when performers make mistakes and insist on telling the audience this, self-deprecating themselves in the process. "whoops, sorry, oh, let's try that again...sorry, I need to practice, etc, etc". I feel so embarrassed for people when they do that. I prefer that they just keep going rather than repeat the mistake or section ad nauseum, as if they have to get it right to move on. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Favorite Five Threads on L.D. > > Do it man! > i guess the question about correcting a loop that has > gone wrong would apply more to loops that are supposed > to be perfect in sync or when trying to play something > really "groovy" rhythmically.This is why the EDP has > become my looper of preference,with this machine i can > comfortably make music out of mistakes,its non latency > response and well thought out edit capabilities give > me the most confidence onstage.With the repeater i > often had little groove problems,i often had to adapt > to its little latency which made it a bit > uncomfortable,although i will miss a lot of its cool > features like panning,pitch shifting track muting etc. > so i would just say to the audience stay with me folks > i promise i will get it right;-) > cheers > Luis > > > > > --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > >> Can I post again? Please? :) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> >> >> > what percentage of loopers go and play 100% >> improvised >> > loops or arranged premeditated loops on stage? >> >> That's my bag all right....everything I do these >> days is totally >> spontaneous. It's like doing drugs, but it's legal. >> >> > how do you correct a bad loop on stage,stop >> > abruptly,bullshit your way while tweaking or >> shoe/rack >> > gazing until u get it right? >> >> To play off a famous quote of Miles Davis, "Do not >> be afraid of errors. >> There are no errors", I never play bad or incorrect >> loops. On occasion, I >> might play something that doesn't ring well with me >> emotionally (neither >> correct nor >> incorrect), but I always manage to work with it >> somehow. It becomes part of >> me just like all my other personality, physical, and >> psychological flaws as >> a >> human being. Even if I loop something rhythmic and >> my foot fails me (maybe >> because I have had one too many cups of coffee or >> drank too much alcohol), >> generating a loop that is an 8th note longer rather >> than what my brain >> wanted to do >> initially, that instantly becomes the norm and basis >> of what I do >> afterwards. I don't really care if I intend on >> playing a 4/4 phrase but it >> ends >> up being 9/8 or 7/8, or even something like 13/8 or >> 11/8. In fact, I don't >> even >> count anymore. I never know what time signature I am >> in unless I consciously >> stop to figure it out. It's a waste of my time. >> Everything is feel to me >> now. >> >> > for those who do or care how do you keep your >> audience >> > interested,do you always loop? >> >> I loop. I try to talk, but I never say what I want >> to say. Music is much >> easer as >> language for me in public. I prefer to play non-stop >> and say thank you at >> the end of the show. >> >> > whats the best looping show you´ve been to? what >> made >> > it so great? >> >> I really enjoyed watching Jeff Kaiser, Rick Walker, >> and Ted Killian >> at the Boise Experimental Music Festival. I liked >> it when some folks >> were talking in the crowd, and then Jeff started >> looping him self >> whispering "stop talking". Classic, I loved it. And >> their set was great. >> Good chemistry, lots of space and diverse sounds, >> etc, etc. >> >> > What makes you feel free while playing >> music?organized >> > or improvised? >> >> Improvised...as free as a person can get, at least, >> metaphorically. I tend >> to subscribe >> to hard determinism these days...no free will, just >> chemistry, neurons, >> cause and effect, and necessity. I think I'm >> determined to do what I do. >> Everything is a result of a cause, ad infinitum. >> That would be an >> unproveable premise, btw. >> >> > i know some of this has been brought up in the >> past >> > perhaps but i think we all could use a >> refreshment! >> > Luis >> >> Thanks for asking! >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> > --- tEd ® kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Hehehe, it would be nice to hear from some of the >> >> young'ins . . . >> >> >> >> Some of my favorites went something like: >> >> >> >> 1. Why do you play (or loop) -- what was the >> journey >> >> that brought you >> >> here? >> >> >> >> 2. Where does your music come from -- what >> inspires >> >> you to create it? >> >> >> >> 3. What are some of your musical influences -- >> or >> >> looping influences >> >> -- and why? >> >> >> >> 4. What are some of your favorite ways of using >> >> your instrument or FX >> >> gear in manners other than that it was designed >> for? >> >> >> >> 5. What keeps you going -- sustains you when you >> run >> >> into a "wall", >> >> carries you through when obstacles arise or when >> >> you're simply tired, >> >> uninspired or "bored" -- or what gets you out of >> a >> >> musical "rut." >> >> >> >> Peace, >> >> >> >> tEd ® kiLLiAn >> >> >> >> "Different is not always better, but better is >> >> always different" >> >> >> >> http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html >> >> http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian >> >> http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html >> >> http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina >> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 >> >> >> >> >> http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? >> >> >> >> step=view_profile&id=121197000042 >> >> >> >> Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available >> at: >> >> Apple iTunes, >> >> BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, >> >> DiscLogic, Napster, >> >> AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, >> >> Etherstream, >> >> RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, >> >> Puretracks, >> >> and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, >> blah. >> >> So??? >> >> >> >> On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:30 PM, loop.pool wrote: >> >> >> >> > So many people have joined this list in recent >> >> years >> >> > that it might be fun to revisit some of the >> >> classic threads >> >> > on creativity, discussions of philosophy, >> >> techniques for improving >> >> > live performances, etc. >> >> > >> >> > I know that, personally, these are always the >> >> threads that have >> >> > fascinated >> >> > me and made me love being on this list. >> >> > >> >> > The oldtimers have weighed in on these subjects >> >> but it would be cool >> >> > to hear what the newest loopers have to say. >> >> > >> >> > What were your favorite five threads on this >> list >> > === message truncated === > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >