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good summary mark, i second the lexicon jamman, mainly because i am selling mine, and i believe there are a few others selling theirs :) for a first looper, i'd suggest an RC-20 or maybe rc-20XL, those are nice, and for a lot of people who are kinda interested in looping but not really, i suggest to them the boss DD20 or line 6 DL-4 mainly because if they don't like it, they still have a decent delay pedal (the lexicon jamman has a delay function too!) otherwise, it seems like laptop looping might be the way to go for a lot :) Charlie On 8/7/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > One thing I've found over the years is that you'll > learn more about people when you read non professional > reviews than you learn about the gear... in many > cases. Don't worry, someone somewhere will hate > everything and they tend to be vocal. > > From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're > not syncing it to a drum machine it seems like a > pretty good box. Not my bag, but I bet good music can > be made with it. Am I wrong on this one? I've kind > of stopped following the threads after "it doesn't > sync well." > > The talk about the JamMan faded so fast I have no idea > what it does... nor do I care. The Lexicon JamMan is > still THE JamMan for me. Get one, they're great.... > unless you're one of the people who hate it. > > Bad reviews on the EDP? Again, not my bag but it > executes what it does really well. Maybe it is my > bag, as I now seem to be very happy with a software > emulation of it running from a laptop. I'm sure it's > not the same but it does what I ask it to do. > > I love the Repeater... but it honestly hasn't seen a > signal for a month... will it hit my closet? (ebay) > Perhaps... My heros seem to have foresaken their > hardware gear for laptop versions. Still nothing > touches what this sucker does in software or other > hardware. Does it have warts? Sure, but show me some > gear that doesn't. > > Looperlative? For sure get a laptop. It's cool, but > for the cash you'll be better off with a decent laptop > and Mobius. If you're totally anti laptop then this > is as good a choice as any. > > 2880? Haven't hear anything bad about that... except > you only get a loop at a time but surely with all > those tracks... > > The thing about your first looper is that it will be > like your first girlfriend/boyfriend. You shan't > forget them, but they will often tell you many things > about what you don't want as well as a few that you > can't get enough of. > > Mark > > --- "tunga.muzik" <tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I´m also new to this community, been playing guitar > > for 15 years now and have been invited by some DJs > > to perform live with them. Obviously I need a > > looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 , > > but that was before I read reviews on > > harmony-central, musiciansfriend.com, loopers > > delight, etc.....I was excited about going stereo, > > having 3 phrase tracks, such long recording > > time......bla, bla, bla...........but as I would > > have it mainly for live performances, just put it > > aside for this moment. > > > > RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade sound quality as > > more phrases are added onto previous recorded ones, > > has the 2 seconds pressed pedal waiting time to > > change recording/dubbing functions......sounds not > > pro enough. > > > > Also read a lot about some little issues on Digitech > > JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix 2880, > > etc.......even the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus > > got bad reviews. > > > > Sincerely....I got lost in the middle of everything, > > so it got cloudy for me to define what should I buy > > at this moment, what will give me condition for a > > reliable and creative live performance, and also be > > a smart option regarding the cost X benefit X > > technology X quality issue. > > > > Counting on your expertise people....thanks a lot. > > > > Peace. > > > > TUNGA > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >