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Going to the laptop aside, I'm surprised no one suggested picking up a used Boomerang. That was my first looper...served me well, with reverse, half speed, A/B loops, nice big durable buttons that you can stomp on, a volume that you can control with your foot. I thought it was a decent machine...accept that it wasn't the quietest unit in town. If I were looking into a fist looper, I might even wait for one of the new Boomerang units. It just seems like the Boomerang is a great road-worthy box. I've seen a lot of touring bands with them when them come into town. Moreover, I'm with Jeff...if you already have a laptop, I'd go with that, but it with the accessories you'll need to get the system connected and working it may cost more than buying a Jamman or RC-20. Mobius if free. A decent sound card will run $150-$300. A MIDI interface another $50-$100 (unless it is included with the audio interface, like the M-Audio firewire unit), and then a MIDI foot controller for $100-$300. So, if you already have a laptop, it could cost between $300 and $700 to get looping with your notebook, depending on the quality if soundcard/audio/MIDI interface and MIDI controller. If you go other cheaper route, then it is close to a wash whether you just buy an inexpensive hardware looper, but you get just a fraction of the features and functionality of Mobius...that is an important factor. If you go the expensive route, which you may end up going to anyway, then the simple hardware setup is the economical choice...but again, the features, the feature, the features. Just look what you get with a program like Mobius. For all practical purposes, it is doing everything that my Looperlative and two EDPs did....both outstanding units, but doomed to obscelesence in my world of technology. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Milkey" <pilotcp@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: ...what to go for then? good summary mark, i second the lexicon jamman, mainly because i am selling mine, and i believe there are a few others selling theirs :) for a first looper, i'd suggest an RC-20 or maybe rc-20XL, those are nice, and for a lot of people who are kinda interested in looping but not really, i suggest to them the boss DD20 or line 6 DL-4 mainly because if they don't like it, they still have a decent delay pedal (the lexicon jamman has a delay function too!) otherwise, it seems like laptop looping might be the way to go for a lot :) Charlie On 8/7/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > One thing I've found over the years is that you'll > learn more about people when you read non professional > reviews than you learn about the gear... in many > cases. Don't worry, someone somewhere will hate > everything and they tend to be vocal. > > From what I can hear about the RC-50 is that if you're > not syncing it to a drum machine it seems like a > pretty good box. Not my bag, but I bet good music can > be made with it. Am I wrong on this one? I've kind > of stopped following the threads after "it doesn't > sync well." > > The talk about the JamMan faded so fast I have no idea > what it does... nor do I care. The Lexicon JamMan is > still THE JamMan for me. Get one, they're great.... > unless you're one of the people who hate it. > > Bad reviews on the EDP? Again, not my bag but it > executes what it does really well. Maybe it is my > bag, as I now seem to be very happy with a software > emulation of it running from a laptop. I'm sure it's > not the same but it does what I ask it to do. > > I love the Repeater... but it honestly hasn't seen a > signal for a month... will it hit my closet? (ebay) > Perhaps... My heros seem to have foresaken their > hardware gear for laptop versions. Still nothing > touches what this sucker does in software or other > hardware. Does it have warts? Sure, but show me some > gear that doesn't. > > Looperlative? For sure get a laptop. It's cool, but > for the cash you'll be better off with a decent laptop > and Mobius. If you're totally anti laptop then this > is as good a choice as any. > > 2880? Haven't hear anything bad about that... except > you only get a loop at a time but surely with all > those tracks... > > The thing about your first looper is that it will be > like your first girlfriend/boyfriend. You shan't > forget them, but they will often tell you many things > about what you don't want as well as a few that you > can't get enough of. > > Mark > > --- "tunga.muzik" <tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > I´m also new to this community, been playing guitar > > for 15 years now and have been invited by some DJs > > to perform live with them. Obviously I need a > > looper, and I was just about to go and get a RC-50 , > > but that was before I read reviews on > > harmony-central, musiciansfriend.com, loopers > > delight, etc.....I was excited about going stereo, > > having 3 phrase tracks, such long recording > > time......bla, bla, bla...........but as I would > > have it mainly for live performances, just put it > > aside for this moment. > > > > RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade sound quality as > > more phrases are added onto previous recorded ones, > > has the 2 seconds pressed pedal waiting time to > > change recording/dubbing functions......sounds not > > pro enough. > > > > Also read a lot about some little issues on Digitech > > JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix 2880, > > etc.......even the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus > > got bad reviews. > > > > Sincerely....I got lost in the middle of everything, > > so it got cloudy for me to define what should I buy > > at this moment, what will give me condition for a > > reliable and creative live performance, and also be > > a smart option regarding the cost X benefit X > > technology X quality issue. > > > > Counting on your expertise people....thanks a lot. > > > > Peace. > > > > TUNGA > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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