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Re: ...what to go for then?



I had one of the older ones and I'm not referring to hiss but just the 
sampling/bit rate/etc. of the sound. 

I've heard guys sound fine onstage with it but at home recording, I 
thought it was too lo-fi. I wanted to like the unit as it's priced right 
and it's made in the US. The new ones coming out look intriguing.
--
Paul  

---- Scott Murchison <murch33@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Mine's got no issues with sound quality.  I run it in
> the loop of my amp and it's dead silent.  Out front
> it's hissy as hell, but that's not where I put it. 
> And for some reason, if I put it in front of my little
> solid state Crate practice amp I don't get noise.  So
> it's not simply a matter of placement, either.
> 
> Scott
> 
> > But the Boomerang IS a choice!? If one doesn't care
> > about sound quality, I guess. I bought one once and
> > sent it back as it sounded very muddy.
> > 
> > Paul 
> > 
> > ---- Joshua Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: 
> > > Cool!  Sounds like a fun show.
> > > 
> > > I'm no hardware expert, but I'd look at the Gibson
> > Echoplex Digital Pro 
> > > I know it does all you want.  If you ask around on
> > this list, there may 
> > > be one or two up for sale.  If you want to do
> > multiple loops with 
> > > separate volumes, etc., you'll have to look at the
> > Looperlative or go 
> > > the laptop route.  The Boomerang might also work. 
> > I believe it does 
> > > Verse/Chorus type "Or" loops, but I don't know if
> > it has a multiply 
> > > function for laying longer loops over shorter
> > ones.  The Repeater might 
> > > also be cool to use with a DJ since I hear it has
> > some pretty cool 
> > > time-stretching capabilities, but beyond that I
> > don't know any of it's 
> > > functionality.  Other people on here might be able
> > to make other 
> > > suggestions.
> > > 
> > > Also, be aware that I believe most of the hardware
> > loopers out there are 
> > > mono, not stereo.
> > > 
> > > Good luck!
> > > 
> > > --Josh
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > tunga.muzik wrote:
> > > > Well, what do you want to do?
> > > > - Mostly to be able to loop in sync to what a Dj
> > is playing.
> > > >  
> > > > Are you playing an instrument, singing,
> > beatboxing? 
> > > > - Yes, I´d be playing guitars, bass guitar and
> > singing.
> > > >  
> > > > Is it important for you to be able to have
> > seperate loops for 
> > > > verse/chorus type structures or to overdub
> > longer phrases overtop of 
> > > > shorter ones?
> > > > - Yes this is very important.
> > > >  
> > > > Do you need to be able to control volumes of
> > seperate loops 
> > > > simultaneously?
> > > > - Not so important at first, but really cool.
> > > >  
> > > > Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I
> > know, the RC-50 is 
> > > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not
> > a choice now. All 
> > > > others I guess would cost me double to do so.
> > > >
> > > > --Josh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > tunga.muzik wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>     I´m going with the individual items idea. I
> > really ain´t got the
> > > >>     time to try a laptop system, although that
> > sure might have its
> > > >>     highlights.
> > > >>      
> > > >>     The purpose of  question at first was
> > really _to have info from
> > > >>     you guys who own or have owned and
> > performed live_ with models
> > > >>     like RC-20, RC-20XL, JamMan, Boomerang,
> > Akai Headrush....the
> > > >>     standard units, cause I´ll probably go for
> > one of these. Also,
> > > >>     it´d be so cool learning with you people
> > who have performed with
> > > >>     a DJ, in a "live" experience. That would
> > really make clear which
> > > >>     features can not fail, or must be reliable
> > at all.
> > > >>      
> > > >>     See, at this point it´s about getting the
> > coolest/best individual
> > > >>     unit, so that I can perform a very
> > reliable/creative gig with the
> > > >>     DJ community and/or a stand alone act -
> > have in mind I would go
> > > >>     for the RC-50 before reading web reviews
> > about it, so it´s not
> > > >>     all about saving a few bucks.
> > > >>      
> > > >>     Also, the DD-20 and LINE 6 DL4, I wouldn´t
> > consider using them as
> > > >>     a looper unit, as I think it´d be a limited
> > choice for a serious
> > > >>     looper. Now thinking it as a delay unit,
> > again from you actual or
> > > >>     past owners, what about the features, sound
> > quality, ease of
> > > >>     use of each one, which is the best?
> > > >>      
> > > >>     Thanks again.
> > > >>      
> > > >>     Peace.
> > > >>      
> > > >>      
> > > >>      
> > > >>      
> > > >>      
> > > >>
> > > >>         ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>         *From:* Douglas Baldwin
> > <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net>
> > > >>         *To:* tunga.muzik
> > <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> ;
> > > >>         Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > >>        
> > <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > > >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:18
> > AM
> > > >>         *Subject:* Re: ...what to go for then?
> > > >>
> > > >>         Hey community-
> > > >>             Have we ever discussed the
> > difference between a looper
> > > >>         and a long delay? Methinks a looper can
> > store a few audio
> > > >>         loops, can start, stop, restsart and/or
> > continue on command,
> > > >>         and can "undo" one or more levels of
> > looping. A long delay
> > > >>         won't do these things, but will have a
> > feedback function so
> > > >>         loops can fade away as new material is
> > added. Any more
> > > >>         differentiating features?
> > > >>             I ask this because I'm reading this
> > thread, thinking,
> > > >>         Boss DD-20! Boss DD-20! Makes a great
> > looper! (except it
> > > >>         doesn't do those "looper" things
> > mentioned above)
> > > >>          
> > > >>         Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
> > > >>         www.thecoyote.org
> > <http://www.thecoyote.org>
> > > >>         coyotelk@optonline.net
> > <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net>
> > > >>          
> > > >>         "Life! Life!
> > > >>         Clouds and clowns!
> > > >>         You don't have to come down!"
> > > >>         - Sly and the Family Stone
> > > >>         ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>
> > > >>             *From:* tunga.muzik
> > <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br>
> > > >>             *To:*
> > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > >>            
> > <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > > >>             *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006
> > 12:19 AM
> > > >>             *Subject:* ...what to go for then?
> > > >>
> > > >>             Hi there,
> > > >>              
> > > >>             I´m also new to this community,
> > been playing guitar for
> > > >>             15 years now and have been invited
> > by some DJs to perform
> > > >>             live with them. Obviously I need a
> > looper, and I was just
> > > >>             about to go and get a RC-50 , but
> > that was before I read
> > > >>             reviews on harmony-central,
> > musiciansfriend.com, loopers
> > > >>             delight, etc.....I was excited
> > about going stereo, having
> > > >>             3 phrase tracks, such long
> > recording time......bla, bla,
> > > >>             bla...........but as I would have
> > it mainly for live
> > > >>             performances, just put it aside for
> > this moment.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade
> > sound quality as more
> > > >>             phrases are added onto previous
> > recorded ones, has the 2
> > > >>             seconds pressed pedal waiting time
> > to change
> > > >>             recording/dubbing
> > functions......sounds not pro enough.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             Also read a lot about some little
> > issues on Digitech
> > > >>             JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix
> > 2880, etc.......even
> > > >>             the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus
> > got bad reviews.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             Sincerely....I got lost in the
> > middle of everything, so
> > > >>             it got cloudy for me to define what
> > should I buy at this
> > > >>             moment, what will give me condition
> > for a reliable and
> > > >>             creative live performance, and also
> > be a smart option
> > > >>             regarding the cost X benefit X
> > technology X quality issue.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             Counting on your expertise
> > people....thanks a lot.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             Peace.
> > > >>              
> > > >>             TUNGA
> > > >>
> > > >>        
> >
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