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I had one of the older ones and I'm not referring to hiss but just the sampling/bit rate/etc. of the sound. I've heard guys sound fine onstage with it but at home recording, I thought it was too lo-fi. I wanted to like the unit as it's priced right and it's made in the US. The new ones coming out look intriguing. -- Paul ---- Scott Murchison <murch33@yahoo.com> wrote: > Mine's got no issues with sound quality. I run it in > the loop of my amp and it's dead silent. Out front > it's hissy as hell, but that's not where I put it. > And for some reason, if I put it in front of my little > solid state Crate practice amp I don't get noise. So > it's not simply a matter of placement, either. > > Scott > > > But the Boomerang IS a choice!? If one doesn't care > > about sound quality, I guess. I bought one once and > > sent it back as it sounded very muddy. > > > > Paul > > > > ---- Joshua Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: > > > Cool! Sounds like a fun show. > > > > > > I'm no hardware expert, but I'd look at the Gibson > > Echoplex Digital Pro > > > I know it does all you want. If you ask around on > > this list, there may > > > be one or two up for sale. If you want to do > > multiple loops with > > > separate volumes, etc., you'll have to look at the > > Looperlative or go > > > the laptop route. The Boomerang might also work. > > I believe it does > > > Verse/Chorus type "Or" loops, but I don't know if > > it has a multiply > > > function for laying longer loops over shorter > > ones. The Repeater might > > > also be cool to use with a DJ since I hear it has > > some pretty cool > > > time-stretching capabilities, but beyond that I > > don't know any of it's > > > functionality. Other people on here might be able > > to make other > > > suggestions. > > > > > > Also, be aware that I believe most of the hardware > > loopers out there are > > > mono, not stereo. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > --Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > tunga.muzik wrote: > > > > Well, what do you want to do? > > > > - Mostly to be able to loop in sync to what a Dj > > is playing. > > > > > > > > Are you playing an instrument, singing, > > beatboxing? > > > > - Yes, I´d be playing guitars, bass guitar and > > singing. > > > > > > > > Is it important for you to be able to have > > seperate loops for > > > > verse/chorus type structures or to overdub > > longer phrases overtop of > > > > shorter ones? > > > > - Yes this is very important. > > > > > > > > Do you need to be able to control volumes of > > seperate loops > > > > simultaneously? > > > > - Not so important at first, but really cool. > > > > > > > > Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I > > know, the RC-50 is > > > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not > > a choice now. All > > > > others I guess would cost me double to do so. > > > > > > > > --Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tunga.muzik wrote: > > > > > > > >> I´m going with the individual items idea. I > > really ain´t got the > > > >> time to try a laptop system, although that > > sure might have its > > > >> highlights. > > > >> > > > >> The purpose of question at first was > > really _to have info from > > > >> you guys who own or have owned and > > performed live_ with models > > > >> like RC-20, RC-20XL, JamMan, Boomerang, > > Akai Headrush....the > > > >> standard units, cause I´ll probably go for > > one of these. Also, > > > >> it´d be so cool learning with you people > > who have performed with > > > >> a DJ, in a "live" experience. That would > > really make clear which > > > >> features can not fail, or must be reliable > > at all. > > > >> > > > >> See, at this point it´s about getting the > > coolest/best individual > > > >> unit, so that I can perform a very > > reliable/creative gig with the > > > >> DJ community and/or a stand alone act - > > have in mind I would go > > > >> for the RC-50 before reading web reviews > > about it, so it´s not > > > >> all about saving a few bucks. > > > >> > > > >> Also, the DD-20 and LINE 6 DL4, I wouldn´t > > consider using them as > > > >> a looper unit, as I think it´d be a limited > > choice for a serious > > > >> looper. Now thinking it as a delay unit, > > again from you actual or > > > >> past owners, what about the features, sound > > quality, ease of > > > >> use of each one, which is the best? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks again. > > > >> > > > >> Peace. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> *From:* Douglas Baldwin > > <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net> > > > >> *To:* tunga.muzik > > <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> ; > > > >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > >> > > <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:18 > > AM > > > >> *Subject:* Re: ...what to go for then? > > > >> > > > >> Hey community- > > > >> Have we ever discussed the > > difference between a looper > > > >> and a long delay? Methinks a looper can > > store a few audio > > > >> loops, can start, stop, restsart and/or > > continue on command, > > > >> and can "undo" one or more levels of > > looping. A long delay > > > >> won't do these things, but will have a > > feedback function so > > > >> loops can fade away as new material is > > added. Any more > > > >> differentiating features? > > > >> I ask this because I'm reading this > > thread, thinking, > > > >> Boss DD-20! Boss DD-20! Makes a great > > looper! (except it > > > >> doesn't do those "looper" things > > mentioned above) > > > >> > > > >> Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large > > > >> www.thecoyote.org > > <http://www.thecoyote.org> > > > >> coyotelk@optonline.net > > <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net> > > > >> > > > >> "Life! Life! > > > >> Clouds and clowns! > > > >> You don't have to come down!" > > > >> - Sly and the Family Stone > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> > > > >> *From:* tunga.muzik > > <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> > > > >> *To:* > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > >> > > <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 > > 12:19 AM > > > >> *Subject:* ...what to go for then? > > > >> > > > >> Hi there, > > > >> > > > >> I´m also new to this community, > > been playing guitar for > > > >> 15 years now and have been invited > > by some DJs to perform > > > >> live with them. Obviously I need a > > looper, and I was just > > > >> about to go and get a RC-50 , but > > that was before I read > > > >> reviews on harmony-central, > > musiciansfriend.com, loopers > > > >> delight, etc.....I was excited > > about going stereo, having > > > >> 3 phrase tracks, such long > > recording time......bla, bla, > > > >> bla...........but as I would have > > it mainly for live > > > >> performances, just put it aside for > > this moment. > > > >> > > > >> RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade > > sound quality as more > > > >> phrases are added onto previous > > recorded ones, has the 2 > > > >> seconds pressed pedal waiting time > > to change > > > >> recording/dubbing > > functions......sounds not pro enough. > > > >> > > > >> Also read a lot about some little > > issues on Digitech > > > >> JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix > > 2880, etc.......even > > > >> the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus > > got bad reviews. > > > >> > > > >> Sincerely....I got lost in the > > middle of everything, so > > > >> it got cloudy for me to define what > > should I buy at this > > > >> moment, what will give me condition > > for a reliable and > > > >> creative live performance, and also > > be a smart option > > > >> regarding the cost X benefit X > > technology X quality issue. > > > >> > > > >> Counting on your expertise > > people....thanks a lot. > > > >> > > > >> Peace. > > > >> > > > >> TUNGA > > > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> No virus found in this incoming > > message. > > > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: > > 268.10.7/411 - Release > > > >> Date: 7/8/2006 > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: > > 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: > > > > 7/8/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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