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Stereo folks, stereo individual units!! For my taste the coolest is to have the possibility to create in stereo, both live and in studio. As I really like Andre Lafosse music, Iīve been doing quite some reading on the EDP. EDP is killer, but having such a killer unit in mono is quite ridiculous (I wonder Andreīs got many echoplexes, or ate least 2), and it sounds really strange Gibson having not cared about it yet. Electro Harmonix 2880 is stereo. What you guys know about it? Any actual/past owners? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Murchison" <murch33@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: ...what to go for then? > Mine's got no issues with sound quality. I run it in > the loop of my amp and it's dead silent. Out front > it's hissy as hell, but that's not where I put it. > And for some reason, if I put it in front of my little > solid state Crate practice amp I don't get noise. So > it's not simply a matter of placement, either. > > Scott > >> But the Boomerang IS a choice!? If one doesn't care >> about sound quality, I guess. I bought one once and >> sent it back as it sounded very muddy. >> >> Paul >> >> ---- Joshua Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: >> > Cool! Sounds like a fun show. >> > >> > I'm no hardware expert, but I'd look at the Gibson >> Echoplex Digital Pro >> > I know it does all you want. If you ask around on >> this list, there may >> > be one or two up for sale. If you want to do >> multiple loops with >> > separate volumes, etc., you'll have to look at the >> Looperlative or go >> > the laptop route. The Boomerang might also work. >> I believe it does >> > Verse/Chorus type "Or" loops, but I don't know if >> it has a multiply >> > function for laying longer loops over shorter >> ones. The Repeater might >> > also be cool to use with a DJ since I hear it has >> some pretty cool >> > time-stretching capabilities, but beyond that I >> don't know any of it's >> > functionality. Other people on here might be able >> to make other >> > suggestions. >> > >> > Also, be aware that I believe most of the hardware >> loopers out there are >> > mono, not stereo. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > --Josh >> > >> > >> > >> > tunga.muzik wrote: >> > > Well, what do you want to do? >> > > - Mostly to be able to loop in sync to what a Dj >> is playing. >> > > >> > > Are you playing an instrument, singing, >> beatboxing? >> > > - Yes, Iīd be playing guitars, bass guitar and >> singing. >> > > >> > > Is it important for you to be able to have >> seperate loops for >> > > verse/chorus type structures or to overdub >> longer phrases overtop of >> > > shorter ones? >> > > - Yes this is very important. >> > > >> > > Do you need to be able to control volumes of >> seperate loops >> > > simultaneously? >> > > - Not so important at first, but really cool. >> > > >> > > Also, itīd be cool to go stereo, but as far as I >> know, the RC-50 is >> > > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not >> a choice now. All >> > > others I guess would cost me double to do so. >> > > >> > > --Josh >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > tunga.muzik wrote: >> > > >> > >> Iīm going with the individual items idea. I >> really ainīt got the >> > >> time to try a laptop system, although that >> sure might have its >> > >> highlights. >> > >> >> > >> The purpose of question at first was >> really _to have info from >> > >> you guys who own or have owned and >> performed live_ with models >> > >> like RC-20, RC-20XL, JamMan, Boomerang, >> Akai Headrush....the >> > >> standard units, cause Iīll probably go for >> one of these. Also, >> > >> itīd be so cool learning with you people >> who have performed with >> > >> a DJ, in a "live" experience. That would >> really make clear which >> > >> features can not fail, or must be reliable >> at all. >> > >> >> > >> See, at this point itīs about getting the >> coolest/best individual >> > >> unit, so that I can perform a very >> reliable/creative gig with the >> > >> DJ community and/or a stand alone act - >> have in mind I would go >> > >> for the RC-50 before reading web reviews >> about it, so itīs not >> > >> all about saving a few bucks. >> > >> >> > >> Also, the DD-20 and LINE 6 DL4, I wouldnīt >> consider using them as >> > >> a looper unit, as I think itīd be a limited >> choice for a serious >> > >> looper. Now thinking it as a delay unit, >> again from you actual or >> > >> past owners, what about the features, sound >> quality, ease of >> > >> use of each one, which is the best? >> > >> >> > >> Thanks again. >> > >> >> > >> Peace. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> *From:* Douglas Baldwin >> <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net> >> > >> *To:* tunga.muzik >> <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> ; >> > >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> >> <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:18 >> AM >> > >> *Subject:* Re: ...what to go for then? >> > >> >> > >> Hey community- >> > >> Have we ever discussed the >> difference between a looper >> > >> and a long delay? Methinks a looper can >> store a few audio >> > >> loops, can start, stop, restsart and/or >> continue on command, >> > >> and can "undo" one or more levels of >> looping. A long delay >> > >> won't do these things, but will have a >> feedback function so >> > >> loops can fade away as new material is >> added. Any more >> > >> differentiating features? >> > >> I ask this because I'm reading this >> thread, thinking, >> > >> Boss DD-20! Boss DD-20! Makes a great >> looper! (except it >> > >> doesn't do those "looper" things >> mentioned above) >> > >> >> > >> Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large >> > >> www.thecoyote.org >> <http://www.thecoyote.org> >> > >> coyotelk@optonline.net >> <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net> >> > >> >> > >> "Life! Life! >> > >> Clouds and clowns! >> > >> You don't have to come down!" >> > >> - Sly and the Family Stone >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >> > >> *From:* tunga.muzik >> <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> >> > >> *To:* >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> >> <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 >> 12:19 AM >> > >> *Subject:* ...what to go for then? >> > >> >> > >> Hi there, >> > >> >> > >> Iīm also new to this community, >> been playing guitar for >> > >> 15 years now and have been invited >> by some DJs to perform >> > >> live with them. Obviously I need a >> looper, and I was just >> > >> about to go and get a RC-50 , but >> that was before I read >> > >> reviews on harmony-central, >> musiciansfriend.com, loopers >> > >> delight, etc.....I was excited >> about going stereo, having >> > >> 3 phrase tracks, such long >> recording time......bla, bla, >> > >> bla...........but as I would have >> it mainly for live >> > >> performances, just put it aside for >> this moment. >> > >> >> > >> RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade >> sound quality as more >> > >> phrases are added onto previous >> recorded ones, has the 2 >> > >> seconds pressed pedal waiting time >> to change >> > >> recording/dubbing >> functions......sounds not pro enough. >> > >> >> > >> Also read a lot about some little >> issues on Digitech >> > >> JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix >> 2880, etc.......even >> > >> the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus >> got bad reviews. >> > >> >> > >> Sincerely....I got lost in the >> middle of everything, so >> > >> it got cloudy for me to define what >> should I buy at this >> > >> moment, what will give me condition >> for a reliable and >> > >> creative live performance, and also >> be a smart option >> > >> regarding the cost X benefit X >> technology X quality issue. >> > >> >> > >> Counting on your expertise >> people....thanks a lot. >> > >> >> > >> Peace. >> > >> >> > >> TUNGA >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> No virus found in this incoming >> message. >> > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: >> 268.10.7/411 - Release >> > >> Date: 7/8/2006 >> > >> >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: >> 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: >> > > 7/8/2006 >> > > >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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