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On 8 aug 2006, at 18.45, Jeff Larson wrote: > I find that most of the time, people that complain about laptop > latency haven't tuned it properly. On a modern laptop with ASIO > drivers, you can expect to achieve latency on the order of 5 > milliseconds > and sometimes lower. I have been playing a lot live, so I can adopt to latency as a musician (differently sized stages, different back-line etc). But I do have a problem with latency in laptop systems and this problem has to do with "bad sound" when my direct signal is being mixed with the latency affected sound. I.e. the good old "phasing issue". Just posting this for the record, to help people speak about the same thing - or realize they don't ;-)) For my own praxis the latency problem is easily fixed by not mixing any delayed instrument with my direct instrument sound. Only the loops pass by through the laptop and since I use Mobius they will be compensated for the short time it takes the audio interface hardware to digitize my analog instrument input signal (AD conversion latency) and shuffle it into Mobius as well for the delay caused by the opposite process (DA conversion) that makes all that digital looping madness analog again so speakers will be able to move air accordingly. Then there is also the personal taste about different instruments. I have a red Line-6 POD and it has a quite uncomfortable latency, so "hardware" can definitely be slow. When I was going to buy a guitar amp I picked the little 2x10" solid state Gallien Krüger only because it answered back quicker "by air" to what I was feeling by steel and wood with my fingers. It felt good to not have to adapt my brain too much to the latency I now experience with my fat tube amp top (although that one sounds great). I think this is a matter of taste; I also like it very much to play tenor sax because I can directly feel the note pitch and attack with my belly (no latency guaranteed since I'm quite skinny ;-). And I like playing the flute because the sound source is then located close to my ears, as is the mic that is providing the electronic signal for amplification. You can definitely learn to play with latency, pro musicians do that every day in all the symphonic orchestras. IMHO it's just not very fun ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom