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That would be a great idea! You could list your items on ebay with a description that says something like "Better than the Boss RC-50!," and include some video clips of you looping with a laptop system. Then, if you could put together a quick-start manual that describes how to use the system as a whole and included some basic e-mail support, you could make a killing! If I had the cash, I'd be all over it. I wonder, though, if there's enough of a market looking for pre-fab packages that would cost upward of $1000 to make it worth your time? And what about beginners who already own laptops? When I started looking around a loopers for the first time (not long ago), I was looking at the RC-50, but wasn't convinced. I figured I already owned a laptop, so that was the way to go. If I didn't own a laptop already, the price alone would have been enough to steer me back to the Boss unit or a Boomerang or something similar. Perhaps some low-level consulting would be a nice addition to this business model so you could hear the customer's vision and current gear and say "no, I don't think your laptop's up to par as-is, but I could sell you more RAM, a firewire audio card, and your choice of MIDI controllers and you'd be able to do exactly what you're describing." You could then put together a custom package for the individual customer. Just a thought... --Josh Krispen Hartung wrote: > I got to thinking wiht my day job hat on, and these days when it is > becoming harder and harder to make money off of technological > products, because of competition, pricing preasures, consolidation, > and the overall commotization of consumer products, the long term > money is in services. > > How do services pertain to looping gear? I may be giving away a great > marketing/business opportunity here, but it seems to me if someone had > the resources they could sell "laptop looping packages". Part of the > problem with some folks getting into laptop looping is that it can be > painful buying a laptop that will do the job, buying all the gear to > connect to it and get started, upgrading, etc, etc. These things take > time for the looping consumer, and time is money. And there are risks > that come along with building your own laptop system, such as teh > overall system not working as expected because of hardware/software > compatibility, and so on. And this too equates to time or rework, > which again equates to money. > > So basically the "laptop looping package" would be a system that > someone experience and knowledgeable would construct and test, and > then sell as a ready to go looping system. You could sell different > types and grades of packages, For instance, a very basic setup might > include an entry level laptop, inexpensive cardbus soundcard, Mobius > installed, and a cheap MIDI controller like the MIDI Mouse, MIDI > Moose, or some other small controller. Then your totally kick ass > package might include a screaming Intel Duo machine, an external > firewire audio/midi interface, and a Behringer controller. Or better > yet, the deluxe pacakge would include a VST host and a ton of free VST > effects, all ready to work. > > The Service here, which you can't bottle up or put in a box, is the > expertise and knowledge of constructing a looping kit or ensemble that > works right out of the box. So, if I were a new looper interested in > getting a laptop looping system, I would buy one of these package, > turn it on, and it would essentially work immediately, everthing down > to the Behringer buttons mapped to Mobius functions, buttons labeled, > etc. Then of course, I could customize it after that point. > > It wouldn't take much to get started on this idea. I don't have the > time to do it, but if I did I would assemble just 2-3 looping packages > and sell them...and then use the profit to buy more packages, etc. > > Incidentally, there are a lot of smart cookies making money hand over > fist using this re-packaging concept on eBay. Folk are actually buying > products on eBay, packaging them up based on a theme of some sort, and > selling them for a profit. Why would people buy something like this > when they could buy the individual items themselves? Well, this sort > of answers the question...the value is in the service or the > convienence of not having to do the research or spend the time to do > this. > > >************************************************************************** > > > Krispen Hartung / Improvisational Looping Guitar > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung > My Tribe: http://people.tribe.net/krispen-hartung > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603 > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm > CD Baby Discography (CDs for only $5): http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung > > > >