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This is a really interesting quote, Andy. I think I vacillate between the two approaches, but the older and more seasoned I get a human being and musician, the more I tend to resonate well with the approach that the instrument is only a tool and not essential for improvisation. This is because I consider improvisation not just something inextricably tied to music, but a way of life and approaching the world, both physically and intellectually. Sometimes I find it just as gratifying to set the guitar down and vocalize through a mic and my looping setup....or pickup a drum like a kinjira, or whatever. I'd rather have the improv music be defined by my own creativity and mind rather than the instrument. Years ago, I would have said something different and much more idealistic (naive?), suggesting that I have this faithful bond with my instrument (gear worship) as if I have become one with it, more obsessed with the means and object rather than the end....but afterall, it is just a material thing made out of wood and metal. If I lost the use of my hands tomorrow, I'd still be looping the next month at gigs...but with my voice, feet, and whatever I can find to express myself. You could disconnect my brain from my body and keep it alive it in a vat, and I'd still improvise musically in my mind. With this approach, nothing can come between the player and his music, because they are both internal and part of one's psyche. I agree, this all applies to looping as you say. We often get so obsessed in the features and functionality of our looping systems, but in the end it seems that one can ultimately sit down and do some amazing and creative things with an utterly basic system or one that is complex. I love my laptop because of its power and flexibility, but if you gave me nothing but an acoustic guitar and a 30 second delay unit with infinite feedback, I'd made it work. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "a k butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: Attitudes to instruments/loopers (Derek Bailey) > "There seem to be two main attitudes to the instrument among >improvisors. > One is that the instrument is man's best friend, both as a tool and a > helper; a collaborator. The other attitude is that the instrument is > unnecessary, at worst a liability, intruding between the player and his > music." > ...Derek Bailey in "Improvisation, It's Nature and Practise in Music". > > So I take that to mean that the instrument is either a means to produce > "the correct notes", or that is something that can be explored to find >new > sounds and new music. > Musicians who develop extended technique presumably have a certain > curiosity about their instrument which is not shared by others. > > > > It struck me too that this applies to looping, there seem to be a lot of > loopers who want their looping gear to perform in certain pre-defined > ways, and not many who are not tempted to experiment/improvise with the > looping device itself. > > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com > >