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On 14 aug 2006, at 16.51, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'd be very curious in knowing the latencies of various popular > hardware effects boxes - the Pod, Fireworx, Vortex, (hell, the EDP), I'm not taking time off to perform clinic tests, measuring milliseconds etc, but according to my ears the my Pod (line-6 model 1) is pretty bad (much slower than a tube amp, kind of "tube amp plus two, three meters distance). The Fireworx is no recognizable latency at all, and that excellent feel goes for the EDP as well. That were the devices I own and use here. Can't tell about the Vortex. A final word on the TC Electronic FirewoX: If you program patches that make use of an external output/insert loop the latency involved makes it totally useless. Good to know for anyone that plans to get one because of that feature. This built-in insert option works like this: If you use the analog in/ out-puts you are free to create patches with "virtual send/receive jack" blocks that use the digital in/out-puts. Vice versa if you are using the digital in/out-puts; then you can program insert loops for the analog in/out-puts. But, as stated, the audio is way too much delayed when sent out to the connected gear and it comes back way too late, creating a kind of slap delay effect. On the other hand, playing into the Fireworx though the analog input directly results in perfectly synced audio going out the analog and digital ports, with no appeared latency at all. With my recent looping rig I play into the Fireworx and use a digital ADAT optical cable to bring the audio into the laptop digitally. That trick increases the experienced audio fidelity a lot, compared to having the audio go D/A from the Fireworx and then another A/D upon arrival into the laptop. I have also hooked up the Fireworx digitally in both directions to Logic and used it as a "virtual software plugin". No latency experienced then either. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom