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At 16:01 14/08/2006, you wrote: >Hi, > >This pattern reminds me of traditional English church bell ringing >patterns >that I was reading about recently. How fascinating! Even as I read about >it >it never occurred to me that it could be useful in looping. Heheheh. > >Best regards, > >Ted Killian yep, that's Plain Bob Minimum. andy butler (from Norwich, where the bells ring like that since the 16th Century)