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I love conversations like this! Consider this: Male vocal singing pre Mic/PA technology was mostly done in falsetto. Why? A baratone male couldn't cut through a band. This is the way it was. I believe Bing Crosby was one of the first popular male singers of modern times that sung in a natural range. Why? Because he used an "effect." Tech. Lo-tech to our rapidly cyborg approaching ways, but tech none the less. It changed music... and then there was the electric guitar.... --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > Yep, that's the beauty of language....we can do just > about anything we want, but whether we'll be able to > communicate with people is a different matter. > Theoretically, we could redefine every word in our > local language and be able to communicate, so long > as we all carried our dictionaries around with us. > There seems to be one common theme with this, which > is that the closer we get to value-based, highly > personal, or controversial subject matter, the more > diverse or fuzzy become the definitions of terms and > phrases. For instance, although we could force > ourselves to do this, we probably wouldn't spend a > whole discussion thread on what we mean by the term > "red". Though, on a painter's forum, they might > very well do this, going into different shades, > whether burnt auburn is red, or whether certain > shades are orange-red or reddish-orange, etc. > > So, how does one define "instrument" in this forum? > I'd say the number of definitions is about directly > proportionate to the number of people who would > respond to that question...and then let the games > begin! (Language Games, that is). > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Daryl Shawn > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: "Instrument" vs "Effect" > > > "Just linguistic gymnastics", says the > triple-axle-reverse-tuck-double-flip-360-degree-twist > record holder? > > ;-) > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > We can define terms easy enough so that an > effects unit is not an instrument...that's just > linguistic gymnastics; but whether an effects box is > an instrument in the same way as a guitar is a > different matter. We are getting into categories of > instrumnetation of varying degrees. Okay, it's half > an instrument, and I'm half a musician by playing > it. Heh heh.... > > Kris > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com