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Per Boysen made a great chart that compares the functionality of various loopers. http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php I'd say the most sophisticated hardware looper would be the Looperlative, by means of it having eight stereo loops, and asynchronus if desired. It has eight sets of possible outputs, but I'm not sure how they're all implemented as the box has continuous software upgrades. It'd be worth checking out the upgrade portion of the forum on the site to see what functionality it has so far. http://www.looperlative.com BTW, I love "a very effective technique, especially if you're lacking inspiration, or smoke pot..." Always a good disclaimer! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > nobody responded last time i asked, so ill ask again.......is there a > consensus on the 'best' looper out there? is it the echoplex? > please, answer me! or, let me know if i am asking wrong - i am new > to the list. i know its kind of a nebulous question, > but i really want something to start with that i can synch via midi > and has multiple outs.