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On 9 feb 2007, at 00.03, Neil Goldstein wrote: > Is Live 6 doing OK as a sync slave with the EDP? There were problems > with earlier versions, thought I'd test the waters again. Neil, Would you mind posting your findings on this? Two years ago, when I was using a rig combining one EDP and Ableton Live 5 I liked to do it the other way; running Live as the master to set the tempo and syncing the EDP. I had a tap tempo pedal for Live to do count-in to start looping in the correct tempo. The reason for that was that I wanted to use SUSSubstitute functions in the EDP in both Half Tempo and Normal Tempo. If you do that with the EDP as sync master the syncing devices (in this case Live) will jump in and out double and half tempo, which is hard to do something musical with and also very unstable (Live looses sync). As related to this, Mobius has a nice fix for dealing with the issue: you can set a global preference of "Minimal Tempo" and "Maximal Tempo". This forces the looper to calculate a sync tempo that is a multiple of the "technically correct" tempo. It means you can cut and truncate the master loops as much as you want without getting those horrible tempo jumps in all synced gear. When I was running a Repeater as the sync slave to the EDP I wished the EDP would have had something like that, because that poor repeater had to work overtime to catch up the ever changing tempi. But it seemed the repeater handled it quite intelligent. If it received a doubled tempo that would be too fast for its audio engine to play back (including time- stretching four tracks of a loop) it simply stayed at the same tempo. And since that worked fine musically everything was ok. I guess this only worked because it was double and half tempo. Probably the sync would have been lost if I should go for a sudden 66.6 percent tempo increase. I have Live 6 here now, but I'm into learning a new system based on Bidule and have no time to set up Live 6 for testing it as a sync slave. I think I remember from the release notes of Live 6 though that "sync has been improved". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release)