Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition?

[Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com>]

Older than dirt... something like:

ABABC SOLO ABB (verse chorus verse chorus bridge break verse chorus chorus)

One of the most fun rules to break!

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On 21-Feb-07, at 12:05 PM, Daryl wrote:

> True, the structure isn't apparent until the piece is complete. The way I view it is that, if a high point has occurred at roughly 2/3 of the way through a tune, the end seems to arrive at a time that is expected and pleasing.
>
> Any pop song that has a guitar solo before the bridge or last verse would roughly follow the model. Tons of Beatles tunes...for instance, Here Comes the Sun. The building bridge after "sun, sun, sun, here it comes" happens after two verses...then it's another verse, another chorus and out. I mentioned Bach earlier, If I remember correctly in the Chaconne or the ubiquitous cello suite prelude in G, the fastest passages and highest note occur at a Rectanglish spot.
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> Daryl Shawn
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> > I beg to differ. The Golden Mean exists outside of time. You observe the
> > golden mean as a whole. Music exists in time. You don't know how much music
> > is ahead (i.e., how much of the ratio is left) until you get to the end. You
> > don't observe music as a whole until it's over. I've listened to some of
> > Bartok's pieces which are written around the Golden Mean, and I don't hear
> > it. I like the music, but I don't hear it.
> >
> > But tell me, what songs use the Golden Mean? Maybe if I listen more, I'll
> > begin to notice it.