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I 've got to chime in here before this becomes a sycophantic feeding frenzy. The reality is that humans like 'loud'. Back in the day Jensen sold more car speakers than anyone because they were 'louder' on the display wall than the other options. Anything done badly can be tiresome. Loudness is only the scapegoat du jour... past 'culprits' have included EQ, effects, distortion, transistors, digital recording, EMGs, MP3s, "the internets", saddam, osama, etc... -- ... http://www.zmix.net