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just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true
feedback but relies on an external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent
tried this out for myself yet....but others have and apparently it
works.
what also makes this interesting is that you can
put effects on that decay loop.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36
AM
Subject: Re: looping pedal with
decay?
thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my
price range, unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad
to know that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that.
Right now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the
noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another
person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and
mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also had
a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want does
indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return the
looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not (digitech
jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones accept more
than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line levels). I would want
at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, although I wouldn't
necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, so long as I got quick
at switching.
Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this
issue before I spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal
that takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set the
feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do
not have any rack equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there
anything else I should be considering in a addition?
The ones
mentioned so far are:
Gibson Echoplex
Boomerang
plus
Electro-Harmonix 2820
Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay
Original
Lexicon Jamman
Electrix Repeater
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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eben
On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com>
wrote:
If
I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more!
I
upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick
it
ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive)
my 2
cents...
Plish
www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
www.myspace.com/bohdanovich
www.michaelplishka.com
>
The only things that I know of that will do what you
> describe are
delay pedals. I think the Giga delay
> would be your best
bet, but I'd also read somewhere
> that this one artist(I can't
remebmer his name) uses
> Eventide rack mount processors set up with
an
> algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that
> his
loops would decay over time. That sounds more like
> what you want,
but that stuff is way expensive. Other
> than that, sounds
like all you need is a digital delay
> unit with copious anmounts of
time and to be able to
> set the feedback setting as needed
to make the loops
> decay over time.
> --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com >
wrote:
>
>> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but
am
>> having trouble
>> figuring out which one will best
meet my needs (and
>> budget). I've
>> learned a LOT from
this web site, but still can't
>> quite figure out
>>
everything and would really benefit from a human
>>
(albeit
>> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in
advance
>> for taking the time
>> to read this and respond
- I hope that I will be
>> able to "give back"
>> some
day when I know something worth while. Until
>> then, I guess
I
>> should donate to this site if I get any
responses.
>>
>> From what I've read and thought about, it
looks like
>> what will be the
>> most important
distinction for me is that the loops
>> will be able to
>>
decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay
>> down another
one
>> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually
>> the first one dies
>> out, then the second one, and so
on. I imagine this
>> working like a
>> delay pedal in
which you can set the decay (or is
>> that called
>>
feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new
>> things,
without
>> being stuck with your original loops, and
without
>> having to open a new
>> loop and start from
scratch with only one new track
>> each
time you
>> wanted to change it up.
>>
>> The three pedals I've looked into
are:
>>
>> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20
giga
>> delay
>>
>> I thought the BOSS was it,
but now I'm thinking that
>> it doesn't allow
>> this
thing that I described. I can't tell if you can
>> do this with
the
>> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do
this
>> with the DD-20,
>> but I can't tell if you'd be
able to set a
>> loop/delay time up with
>> your foot or
not (versus having to set it to a
>> certain number of
>>
seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that
>> length) or
if
>> there would be other difficulties that I'm not
aware
>> of if you're
>> using this as a looping pedal
when it's built to be
>> a delay.
>>
>> Should I
be considering a different pedal? I don't
>> really need a
delay
>> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I
don't
>> really need to be
>> able to save my loops - I
just want to be able to
>> set them up on the
>> fly. I
don't need to be able to save them on my
>> computer. I don't
need
>> to be able to plug in a separate mic or
instrument
>> in addition to the
>> guitar, although that
would be a definite bonus for
>> me. I don't need a
>>
long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is
>> plenty. I don't
know
>> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or
>> not - I certainly
>> wouldn't mind, but I don't know
enough about using a
>> looper yet to
>> know about that.
Also, how important is
>> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I
>>
don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex
>> is right
out. The
>> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway
I'm
>> affraid of the noise
>> issues that people have
written about with that one.
>> I haven't really
>>
learned about any other pedals out there.
>>
>> Thanks
again!
>>
Eben
>>
>>
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