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I didn't know that - what does that mean? THANKS! On 3/8/07, arcmotion <andrzej@arcmotion.com> wrote: > > > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on >an > external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for > myself yet....but others have and apparently it works. > > what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that >decay > loop. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: radio radio > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM > Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? > > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right > now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. >Another > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay >(and > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which >ones > accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line > levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a >mic, > although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both >simultaneously, > so long as I got quick at switching. > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend >the > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both > instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for >the > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any >rack > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I >should > be considering in a addition? > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > Gibson Echoplex > Boomerang plus > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > Original Lexicon Jamman > Electrix Repeater > > ????????????????????????????? > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eben > > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons >more! > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you >pick it > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > Plish > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops > > > decay over time. > > > --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am > > >> having trouble > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and > > >> budget). I've > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't > > >> quite figure out > > >> everything and would really benefit from a human > > >> (albeit > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance > > >> for taking the time > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be > > >> able to "give back" > > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until > > >> then, I guess I > > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. > > >> > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like > > >> what will be the > > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops > > >> will be able to > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay > > >> down another one > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually > > >> the first one dies > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this > > >> working like a > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is > > >> that called > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new > > >> things, without > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without > > >> having to open a new > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track > > >> each time you > > >> wanted to change it up. > > >> > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > >> > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga > > >> delay > > >> > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that > > >> it doesn't allow > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can > > >> do this with the > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this > > >> with the DD-20, > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > >> loop/delay time up with > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > > >> certain number of > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that > > >> length) or if > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware > > >> of if you're > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be > > >> a delay. > > >> > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't > > >> really need a delay > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't > > >> really need to be > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to > > >> set them up on the > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > > >> computer. I don't need > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument > > >> in addition to the > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for > > >> me. I don't need a > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is > > >> plenty. I don't know > > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or > > >> not - I certainly > > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a > > >> looper yet to > > >> know about that. Also, how important is > > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I > > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex > > >> is right out. The > > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm > > >> affraid of the noise > > >> issues that people have written about with that one. > > >> I haven't really > > >> learned about any other pedals out there. > > >> > > >> Thanks again! > > >> Eben > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > > > > > > > > > >