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hi Michael I guess this is what you're after. Method 1 Quantise=8th 8th/cycle= your choice InsertMode=SUB A short press of Insert will substitute a fraction of a cycle, based on the 8th/cycle value. Won't work if the 8th/cycle value is too high for the size of loop (Timing LED won't flash) A good place to start is a 2sec loop and 8th/cycle=8 Method 2 Quantise=CyC InsertMode=SUB Doesn't get interesting unless you create a small loop and multiply it, then a short press of Insert Substitutes just one cycle. Related Stuff InsertMode=rPL works in a similar way. Quantise=CyC InsertMode=SUS Allows you to start with a short loop, and do a short press of Insert to add equal sized chunks each a cycle long ( e.g. andy butler "Tripwire" ) have fun andy butler Michael Peters wrote: >> At 2:15 I changed loop, back to a rhythmic loop that I had created > earlier by quantized SUSSubstituting > > could someone please list the EDP settings for that kind of rhythm >effect? > many people here use it - Andy Butler and Bill Walker and others - but I > never managed to figure how to do it. > > -Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > >