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Sorry to go logical on you ,but I don't assume that at all .I spoke only of the people who sit at their laptops .I'm in no way against the use of laptops ,or any other gear,nor do I think showmanship is a necessary part of good music.It's a good idea for folks trying to gig to have some. But I find alot of things people do in the name of showmanship trite and boring . That's why I said I like the fact that percussionists look like they're doing something just because the instruments are so physical. I probably have less showmaship than anyone I know,I'm much more interested in riding the vibe than in acting out. One of the reasons I've played so much dance music( esp for various freaky subcultural scenes) is ,I want the audience to visually stimulate me. I also find audiences that sit there staring to be kind of boring. "This assumes that they have to look at and touch their laptop, which isn't always the case. In most cases, I can close my latop lid and do everything with my MIDI controller - I can now with my new max system. Also, some hardware loopers are also not particularly interesting to watch either. One just just as easily stare at his/her footpedals and instrument, rather than engaging the audience." _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i’m Initiative now. It’s free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07